Thanks for the advice, fleury, and thanks for the encouragement deepdish and givememyleg. I was just wondering tho, what would my x/x number be? (example -- im 9/20 at a loose table and 14/20 at a tight table) what do these numbers mean and where am i sitting? also id kidna like to know the style im playing (i think its Tagg?)- thanx again posters