Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
T9s has a ton more value checking behind pre (or i guess calling the minraise) than raising as a steal. When we raise we give our opponents the option of reraising us, and can make hands that would normally pay us off when we hit big fold such as weaker flush draws and other straight draws. In addition, we shift from a spot of being in fairly good relative position to being in a spot with very bad relative position. Also, the initial raiser here is a shortstack so i beleive his shoving, or at least 4betting, range is going to be wider anyway. Meanwhile, if we just call we're getting some absurd pot odds/implied odds, close the action, and have excellent relative position against the initial raiser (though i guess he does have fairly weak initiative).

On the flop im inclined to give up tbh...if betting closed the action then itd be fine and completely justifiable...but since we're rarely gonna be called in this spot (considering the stack sizes) and rather the opponent is either gonna shove with most hands that have equity and fold the rest i cant say i really like our hand.
Yah 109s is too valuable in this spot preflop to give them the chance of betting us off it :/