Having some trouble getting out of 5NL

Found this in your other thread:

At 5NL on my laptop I play 7-8 tables at a time. They are small and cluttered all over the place. I get my reads by noticing who is multi-table-ing like me and those who are, I assume they are tight ABC, otherwise everyone else is a donk that plays crap hands.

Advice: Cut back on multitabling. Dropping down to 4 tables should help as it will force you to pay more attention to the game. You'll learn more.

Also it sounds like you are categorizing multitablers into one category altogether, I wouldnt suggest doing this. Just take constructive notes like 'seen villian play top/top like this....seen villian check the nuts on flop of xxx....seen villian show up with 67s in 3-bet pot...'. I'm not saying those are the best notes to take, there are probably way better ones to take, but I find that just paying attention to how opponents play certain hands its pretty productive. It helps you recognize when you're beat.

Keep in that that just because someone is multitabling doesn't mean they are playing every hand the same way you do. The more notes you can collect and the more lines of play you pay attention to that your opponents take, the greater your edge will increase, thus allowing you to win money. Remember, just because 2 players have the same stats of say, 15/10/2.5 does NOT mean they play the same game. There are much deeper factors (i.e. positional awarness, how plays villian plays sets, etc. ) that make up a players game. Everyone is different. General categories are a great use for someone you don't know much about, but as you play against that player more and more, you should be discovering more and more. This will allow you to narrow your perceived image of the way that person plays, and the picture will become more accurate than just a generalization.

Keeping good up-to-date notes will remind you when that donk has his 2-pair, because chances are, it might be played the exact same way.

I guess I basically posted a reply to your other post here, but I did mostly because I think my reply should go in this thread.
It's best you not rush moving up anyway, when you make it to the next level you want to be able to own it, not let it own you. GL sir.

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02-04-2009 08:48 PM #10
Micro2Macro View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Jan 2009 Posts 5,314 Location No structure	Found this in your other thread: At 5NL on my laptop I play 7-8 tables at a time. They are small and cluttered all over the place. I get my reads by noticing who is multi-table-ing like me and those who are, I assume they are tight ABC, otherwise everyone else is a donk that plays crap hands. Advice: Cut back on multitabling. Dropping down to 4 tables should help as it will force you to pay more attention to the game. You'll learn more. Also it sounds like you are categorizing multitablers into one category altogether, I wouldnt suggest doing this. Just take constructive notes like 'seen villian play top/top like this....seen villian check the nuts on flop of xxx....seen villian show up with 67s in 3-bet pot...'. I'm not saying those are the best notes to take, there are probably way better ones to take, but I find that just paying attention to how opponents play certain hands its pretty productive. It helps you recognize when you're beat. Keep in that that just because someone is multitabling doesn't mean they are playing every hand the same way you do. The more notes you can collect and the more lines of play you pay attention to that your opponents take, the greater your edge will increase, thus allowing you to win money. Remember, just because 2 players have the same stats of say, 15/10/2.5 does NOT mean they play the same game. There are much deeper factors (i.e. positional awarness, how plays villian plays sets, etc. ) that make up a players game. Everyone is different. General categories are a great use for someone you don't know much about, but as you play against that player more and more, you should be discovering more and more. This will allow you to narrow your perceived image of the way that person plays, and the picture will become more accurate than just a generalization. Keeping good up-to-date notes will remind you when that donk has his 2-pair, because chances are, it might be played the exact same way. I guess I basically posted a reply to your other post here, but I did mostly because I think my reply should go in this thread. It's best you not rush moving up anyway, when you make it to the next level you want to be able to own it, not let it own you. GL sir.