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    Quote Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13 View Post
    First off sven let me start by saying I am responding more for my own benefit as I'm learning myself and want to see how my comments add up to the others.

    (#1) bet flop more like $.5 and fold to any raise. With the A and flush draw out there it is very likely you are beat and you wouldn't have that much invested.

    (#2) Good job!

    (#3) Against a short stack I think the main thing here is you should have had a plan going into it. Am I going to be willing to go all in, which for that amount I would, so if you had a plan and stuck with it then GJ.

    (#4) FOLD PRE-FLOP Your position sucks! As played Fold the flop and move on. You don't even have the A high beat and you have to remember even retarded fishes get cards. Fold and move on!

    (#5) Fold the flop. You missed now save your money and move on. You'll loose a lot of money chasing flushes!

    Remember at 2nl you are really best to play tight and in position. Don't waste your moniez chasing and playing second best hands. You will get paid off so good when you do hit there is no reason to fuck around with other shit!

    Good luck
    Thanks for the feedback, yes, I agree following through others' reasoning is very helpful, especially when you get to look at how it compares to your previous thinking.

    Hand 1: Here; my thoughts pre-flop were that if he called, based on other showdowns, that he would have an ace in his hand maybe ~70% of the time here, high pp being a reasonable second.. Based on this, I pretty much was willing to muck any Ace flop should he call. I feel fine doing this, as he had a low aggression frequency post flop (didn't seem to bluff much), and most flops won't have an ace (~85%) where I can bet them with some confidence. In my thinking that 70% have an ace, of these, maybe half are a strong ace, willing to raise me here, and weaker aces might just call down. I am guessing, but I think if I bet and he flat calls, I might be tempted to value town myself, on the off chance he's on a flush draw, but against an ace. and end up down $2 with 2nd pair.

    Hand 2: What do you think of my raise on the flop? This seems spewy to me.. :\

    Hand 3: I think my intention was to fold to a decent raise on an ace flop, but the 2c wasn't a decent raise... And it confused me more than anything. I don't know what he can show up with on the turn that he is all in (without bluffing) that I beat. But I am priced in to call if he bluffs maybe ~20% of the time

    Hand 4: I forgot to mention:: This player is the same player from hand 5:: 48/24 in the session, but yes, otherwise to a pfr, i'm probably folding this if he's more regular stats.

    Hand 5: This seems like a semi-spewy bluff to me.. I don't have much into the hand, so you're right, I need to expect he'll fold near 1/2 the time for my raise (to this amount) profitable.. I wasn't chasing the flush, but maybe this is a bad move anyways? It was a "please fold bet" that screamed either "please fold", "i know you're bluffing, so I will value bet my Ace high" or "woo I'm a tard that played my 2 strangely, and I want my 23 cents now, please let me play more -EV hands" - at least that's how I'd see it if I were him :P.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imthenewfish View Post
    #1 - b/f flop, pretty much give up if called
    #2 - 4x preflop, I don't get the flop min raise AT ALL. If you really think your implied odds are good enough to draw to a gutshot opening up the betting round again just gives him another chance to give you shitty pot odds. Him donking 0.06 does usually represent a weak made hand/ draw though just call and play the turn IP.
    #3 - PLAN YOUR HAND! If he's that short on the flop then it shouldn't be that hard to get the rest of his chips in on later streets. I feel that raising only commits you more and folding is too weak. I'd flat and reevaluate the turn.
    #4 - I think calling preflop was fine. When he bets $0.06 I'm inclined to think he's weak. Either c/r to $0.15 on the flop or flat with the intention of leading "good" turn cards (yes the 2 was a good card). Why the hell are you drawing to a gutshot against a shortstack without the intention of stealing the pot the majority of the time?
    #5 - FLAT IT AND REEVALUATE IP ON THE TURN
    #1 - Already addressed why i checked here, is my reasoning wrong?
    #2 - I agree. tardish flop action on my part
    #3 - Thanks! Wow, I can't believe flatting didn't cross my mind, esp if I am folding to a large bet here, why am I getting a little money in for him, and giving him no fold equity.. my line is icky.
    #4 - oooh c/r flop would put me in position for the turn. agreed.
    #5 - This will narrow villains betting range to more made hands and fewer bluffs, thus increasing the EV of my rebluff? I think I agree.

    EDIT:: Haha with the hands I posted it looks like I just want to bluff every hand.. no, these made sense to me in some fashion, where I find myself bluffing, where I expected positive value from a bluff. :P
    Last edited by sven00100; 05-21-2010 at 09:26 PM.

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