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 Originally Posted by Robb
 Originally Posted by Ragnar4
This is a WA/WB situation obviously. I think you're ahead on that turn more often than not. But Shoving doesn't buy any FE because there is no better hand than what you have that opponent is folding.
The shove is for value, not fold equity - at least, that was the point of poll question. Shove if you think it's likely to be the best way to win lots of chips.
So I guess the overbalacing factor is that even if you're shoving with, and you don't get better hands to fold? you do get a pretty good range of worse hands to call so I shove.
That was my last sentence... IE Value.
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