rpm, I don't doubt you're right, I probably should bet for value. I just don't like the turn, I'm kind of lost because I don't really find myself in this spot. Because we paid a x5 ep raise, I'm paranoid about the bigger pair more than the flush draw. I guess I'm just trying to keep the pot small because I don't have huge confidence in my hand, though I recognise its showdown value so I want to get that far if possible. The river of course is horrible and if I called a bet on the turn I'm certainly not doing so on the river.