GS subs, private tourney, bears... OH MY!!!

As many of you know most GrinderSchool members and instructors are also active FTR members. Well one of those members [Sasquach991] is looking to give back for the help he has gained here, and is willing to pony up for a month's microstakes subscription, so that one lucky individual can browse the plentiful GrinderSchool vids/articles/forums for a month.

We've decided that in order to determine the recipient I would host a private $1 tourney on PokerStars, whereby the winner would receive the grinderschool subscription. I've also decided that depending on the interest and number of entrants, I would be willing to pony up and pay for another 1-2 month long microstakes subscription to be awarded to two other participants, putting the total at a possible 3 subscriptions being awarded.

So I've created this thread to announce that there will be a tourney held in the near future, and to get some feedback on when to hold the tourney, as well as, maybe some boundaries on the players allowed to play.

Obviously, the tourney will be a no-go for freetrollers. If you have a low post count, but are actually here to learn and would put the GS subscription to good use, then by all means play. I will likely email/pm the password out to all entrants before the tourney begins (however, I doubt freetrollers will bother since it has a small $1 buyin fee).

would it be in bad taste to play the tourney for the fun of it (the FTR tourneys are freetroll-packed and the gauntlet is too expensive) and sell the prize if i win?

Iso bears.

I'd play in this if i qualify.

I've looked at joining something like this (and leggo) but haven't quite got round to doing it or know whether it's worth it (no offnce to anyone involved, just my thoughts).

A free trial could get me signed up for a lot longer - I'm currently making money at $50nl but wanna improve the many leaks I have.

Originally Posted by WillburForce

A free trial could get me signed up for a lot longer - I'm currently making money at $50nl but wanna improve the many leaks I have.

do you play FT at all? you know about the free cardrunners, right?

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by WillburForce

A free trial could get me signed up for a lot longer - I'm currently making money at $50nl but wanna improve the many leaks I have.

do you play FT at all? you know about the free cardrunners, right?

no and no.

haven't played at FT yet. i play almost exclusivly at Betfair - i got good rakeback and lots of fish.

but enlighten me - free Cardrunner, plus rakeback and a sign on deal could persuade me. I'm coming to end of a bonus at Betfair tomorrow.

@WillburForce

A one month microstakes subscription only grants you access to their videos at 10NL and below, I believe. Have to get the full 3 month subscription for access to all content.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong!

Mark

You are correct kiwiMark. I have a full now and I gotta say well worth the money. Any starting player will get a boat load of great videos at the microstakes level.

I heard something about bears. Where are the bears? This is bullshit if there are no bears in this thread.

In.

I have $40 burning a hole in my pocket on Stars xStacksx. If you do this and get say 20 serious applicants, I will ship you up to $39.99 for the 3rd 1-3month membership if you want.

I'd definately participate. My previous GS subscription helped me out and I plan on getting back into poker now that golf season is over. I'm still a micro grinder but have aspirations for being a much more intelligent player...

micro-grinders - get your arses in this tourney

This is really cool of you guys- I'll be there

count me in Stacks...

OMG HOW COULD I FORGET THIS ONE?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1g2yKxb0I

Let me holla at you. Lolol I want in?

Any comments on what day and what time to host the tourney? I'm thinking this coming Sunday, but not sure how it will set for everyone involved.

4pm EST so both Californians and Euros can join in on the fun?

Originally Posted by BooG690

4pm EST so both Californians and Euros can join in on the fun?

agree on this time but how about following sunday to give time for people to sign up and i'd like to play but this week would be bad for me for a reason that i'll probably post on my blog on thursday

Hope I can get in on this...
sounds like a huge opportunity to improve

Kind of liked the idea of it being this weekend

4pm sounds like a solid time to me as well. I'm free any Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, or Sunday.

Can I play even though I have a strike? Also please can you PM me the password, time and date. Thanks!

ill play this sunday at 4pm or any day during the week is good for me too....

I'd definately be interested in this tourney.

I would love to participate, though my post count isn't very high I'm a very dedicated 25NL grinder at the current moment and this sounds like a great opportunity.

I might need someone to ship me a dollar on stars, my account there is completely empty

Originally Posted by Blackychan

I would love to participate, though my post count isn't very high I'm a very dedicated 25NL grinder at the current moment and this sounds like a great opportunity.

I might need someone to ship me a dollar on stars, my account there is completely empty

so you got a low post count and need someone to ship you some monies...i'm not liking ur chances.

Most days apart from Sat are good for me - though can Stacks confirm if this subscription is worth a $50nl (wannabe) Balla's time?

Originally Posted by Blackychan

I would love to participate, though my post count isn't very high I'm a very dedicated 25NL grinder at the current moment and this sounds like a great opportunity.

I might need someone to ship me a dollar on stars, my account there is completely empty

Blackychan has been to irc a few times, and seems like a pretty solid guy. When the tourney time comes, I'll def ship you a $1 for the entry fee, and you're def welcome to play.

Originally Posted by willburforce

Most days apart from Sat are good for me - though can Stacks confirm if this subscription is worth a $50nl (wannabe) Balla's time?

Well, as things stand right now, I'm thinking all of the subs are going to be the microstakes 1 month sub, which gives access to all vids 10nl or below. The sub is only approximately $10 for the month, so it's probably not something a 50nler would benefit from, at least not nearly as much as a 2nl/5nler would. And if you think you would, then the price is so low, it shouldn't be a big dent to spend 1/5th of a buyin on a month's sub to check it out.

However, I'm not going to say that you can't participate. If I were in your shoes, I would more than likely participate, and then if I happened to win donate the sub to some worthy individual. I may take a day or two to check out the place to see if I liked the layout, and felt I could learn something from there, and then give the sub up (if this was possible somehow).

This is just another example of the awesomeness that is FTR. Grinder School helped me out a lot. Even if you don't "cash" in this tourney, I highly recommend everyone getting at least a month's micro-stakes subscription. It's only $10 and you'll make it up in one session. Even at $2NL. Seriously. I went from playing 5nl-10nl at the end of July and now I'm already rolled for 50nl in around 30k-ish hands. You can do it too.

</end GS pimpage>

plus I'm actually kinda nice over there

i would like to play 4pm eastern sounds good any day.

I'm in if BooG's in and only if we can be at the same table where I haz position on him.

ok - i'll play. and check out CR myself, then maybe sign up to a proper subscription.

also if i win i'll also donate my winnings from the tourney (and make up any shortfall) for another player to have a subscription.

prob 2nd place.

Originally Posted by dranger7070

I'm in if BooG's in and only if we can be at the same table where I haz position on him.

Please make this happen somehow. Also, I will be playing and donating my subscription to another microstakes player (as I see fit). Actually, a lot of us from IRC seem to be doing that. Therefore, if some of you microstakes players are hoping to be the lucky one chosen to get a handout, I implore you to come visit IRC to prove you are dedicated to your poker game. Click the bear to find out more about IRC:

lol link fail.

I'll play to donate if I remember. Sundays have a way of having kid tilt involved . lolfamilyaments

I'll even pony up another $10 micro sub if there is enough interest/players to make it worth while. As I remember my 1st training site sub.. Was worth 100 times the cost easily.

I'm planning on playing too. If I win, I plan on donating it to the first player below me in the rankings that doesn't have a GS sub.


BTW, Once you get the micro sub, you can add $10 to it and get the full sub for a month so it's like a half price sub for non-micro players.

i'd play too, aint a freeroller : ))









ye ye, i know

considering doing something like a loan-shark setup. But without the shark thing.

I lend micro regs the $$ for a gs sub. They pay me back at zero interest once they move up and can pay for it themselves. Grinderschool gotta love this idea

Paging the luckyslevins out there! this has to be -EV...

set a date stacks...

Originally Posted by geno9

ill play this sunday at 4pm or any day during the week is good for me too....

it's unamerican to schedule a poker tournament during a cowboys game.

also, while we're requesting tables, i would like to request to NOT be at dranger's table, as i plan to nit it up like crazy

i hate jerry jones and the combination of him and wade phillips make me sick, nice TO ice on tynes. so glad he drilled it down the middle the 2nd time, GGGGGGGGGGGGGGMEN!!!

as for the tourney, if that time doesnt work well shoot for next sunday or whatever. im sure most ppl will be fine with a sunday afternoon though....

I iz keen.

sunday blows, but whatever

I would like to play in this if its okay with you stacks

I'm down.

Looking forward to play too if I should qualify.

Sunday 11th @ 4pm est?

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Sunday 11th @ 4pm est?

works 4 me

if i dont go to the giants game or go to vegas (might go 7th-13th) than im down to play on the 11th at 4pm.

if not any other sunday this month works...

That'll work.

Good with me

Along with a GS micro month. I also have 2 stakes for stars busto peeps.

Stacks will make the decision on who gets them, if they are needed.

But to be sure. My stakes are good luck. So that may be an unfair advantage to anyone that uses them .


Hope I get a chance to play too. And gl to everyone.

I should be able to make that, please let me know when the details surface...

I would like to play.

If I win, I will donate my membership to the next guy in line since I already won one here through FTR and am like a few days from getting to 25NL

Thanks for offering this, you da man stacks.

So basically, this is how I'm thinking things are going to go down.

We have ample individuals willfully donating money for GS subs, as it's pretty obvious how beneficial it is to micro players. My thought is to add another GS sub for every X number of entrants. I'm not sure what X is yet, but will re-read the thread soon and see how many likely entrants we have for Sunday and determine a number for X. It will likely be somewhere between 5-10. So there is a good chance there will be 3-5 GS subs up for grabs, and maybe a few more (which I or others will cover).***

The subs will be given out to the top finishers in the tourney, along with the prize pool from the $1 entry fee. The entry fee is sort of my protection to keep the entrant pool from becoming freetroll infested, and because I can't setup freerolls without messaging Support, and even then I'm not sure. If you happen to have no money on your stars account, or have money but the $1 entry fee would be poor Bankroll management for you, then I have a small pool going whereby others and I will donate the $1 entry fee to you. You will not need to pay it back, just enjoy yourself and try your hardest to win a sub.

It seems as if the plans for Sunday 11th at 4pm EST are pretty popular. I do know that a few have already stated that they aren't likely to be able to make it. I apologize for that, and hope you can find a way. If not, let the that fact if this tourney turns out well and the winners put their subs to good use, there is a high likelihood that another one of these will be setup in the fairly near future.

As far as restrictions on who can play, there isn't really any. As I've said freetrollers are off limits, so don't spread the password around. However, if you have a low post count but intend to improve at poker and put the subscription to good use, then by all means you are eligible, so post here saying you would like to play, or else I will likely not pm/email you the password.

As far as non-microstakes players playing, I'm fine with that. And I'll award you the prize if you happen to win. The only thing I ask is that you evaluate it's worth to you, and it's potential worth to a fellow microgrinding FTRer, and decide which the subscription will benefit more.

*** I would just like to note that if for some reason the password does get leaked and there is loads of participation from numerous obvious freetrollers, then I reserve the right to only award a set number of subs to the top winners (likely 5). And if an unknown does end up winning a sub, I will be awarding him. So it is in your best interest to not leak the password so that your chances of winning is increased.***

stax, sign me prz. Maybe i can get my boog or my dranger to loan me 1$ because all my moneys on FTP

I think you should mention Stacks that by no means will it benefit freerollers or anyone with any plans to put this sub cash to any other use. This will be non refundable money sent to JGB by Stacks. The GS money will not be placed in your account.

Originally Posted by jyms

I think you should mention Stacks that by no means will it benefit freerollers or anyone with any plans to put this sub cash to any other use. This will be non refundable money sent to JGB by Stacks. The GS money will not be placed in your account.

Yep.. I should have mentioned this.. I will be transferring the money to JGB on your behalf.

I guess that the entry fee is being paid to stacks then and is it possible to set the tourney up with an approved list of entrants rather than a password?

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

I guess that the entry fee is being paid to stacks then and is it possible to set the tourney up with an approved list of entrants rather than a password?

Entry fee isn't being paid to me. You will enter like all other tourneys by finding the tourney and paying the entry fee. The tourney will play out, and the prize pool will be distributed. After this, I will look at the winners, and then get in touch with them, and they can setup a GS account, and I believe I can ship the money to JGB, asking him to activate the winner's accounts.

I think every new (and old) BC participant needs to try to play this.

What you can gain with training far exceeds the entry fee, (lol @$1)

I would love to play, but I got to work while it will be going on. But I did sign myself up with a sub to GS, so I would only be playing for the fun of it anyways. Anyways good luck to all those (non-freetrollers) who play!

Registration will remain open right up until the tourney. However, since I am going to be emailing or pming the password, if you haven't posted your intent to play in this thread, you will likely not get a pm.

The tourney will be Sunday 11th at 4pm EST. It has yet to be created, but will be created by a reasonable time tomorrow. At that time, I will reply here stating the tourney id, etc, as well as start pming the passwords out.

dont forget me

Do want.

I work nights. Day/afternoon would be better for me. If not, oh well. But seriously though ... I'm down for learn-inating. Always.

posting intent to play

Okay, so I just sent out a pm to everyone that stated they wanted to play. It should tell the password, as well as the tourney ID. If you did not receive a pm with that information, and you would like to play, please send me a pm telling me you would like to play.

The fastest way to find the tourney would be to go to Requests > Find Tournament, then enter the tourney ID I sent in the pm.

The other way would be to go to the Tourney Tab > Private, then search for a tourney starting October 11th at 15:00 CT with the name "GS Sub Tourney".

The tourney starts in 1 hour.

Can I play plz?

S'ok I got teh password!

That is apparently a great password, took me 4 tries to enter it correctly... lol