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    ... because I timed out and folded. That being said, my plan was to reevaluate, as I think he's capable of doing this w/ over pr 88+ (assuming he doesn't 4bet QQ+... I only have a few orbits in), draws (89s maybe), maybe 78s and bullsh!t. He flats a 3b w/ A6s, A7s, 77,66... I think that's all that I'm WB... and the Axs is some meh sh!t.

    I was going to call and see the Turn. Assuming I wasn't a dildo and did not time out, call another 1/2+ PSB, fold or shove over a non-draw turn card?

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    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
    1 fold, MP bets $0.35, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP calls $0.65

    Flop: ($2.15) 6, 7, 6 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $1.45, MP raises to $3.50, Hero folds

    Total pot: $5.05 | Rake: $0.33
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    why is it a pattern that you never have reads
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    without reads i'd just put him all on the flop. so no tricky decisions on turn.

    if he has a set, meh, nh. if he has A-6, make a note, nh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce
    without reads i'd just put him all on the flop. so no tricky decisions on turn.

    if he has a set, meh, nh. if he has A-6, make a note, nh.
    why is this better than call/call/call for your stack? (of course betting when he checks)
    same result, but we're underrepping our hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce
    without reads i'd just put him all on the flop. so no tricky decisions on turn.

    if he has a set, meh, nh. if he has A-6, make a note, nh.
    why is this better than call/call/call for your stack? (of course betting when he checks)
    same result, but we're underrepping our hand
    check calling is good for me. I'd rather just get the money on the flop. say another 7 drops on the turn? or a K? or a Q? Just makes another decison.

    it's a pretty standard spot though, and the answer is that at 10nl we're never folding A-A here. however you wanna get your money is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    why is it a pattern that you never have reads
    Akshly, most of my posts do have reads. I'm on the road so this was a 150 hand laptop session. No data from past sessions. I picked up some notes in that short time, but meh, not on the vils in the hands in question.
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    this is just a sick bad fold against a MP open+3bet calling range

    I'd just get it in on the flop, he's not folding an overpair cuz ppl suck and there are bad turn cards that could kill your action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    why is it a pattern that you never have reads
    let's venture a guess, no reads plus timing out....hmmmmmmmmmm wonder what the problem is
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    why is it a pattern that you never have reads
    let's venture a guess, no reads plus timing out....hmmmmmmmmmm wonder what the problem is
    OP needs to stop watching teh porn while playing?
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    this is easily an overpair worst than yours. if you were the initial raiser and he called, then the THOUGHT of folding might wander around in our heads. but since he raised first and we 3bet we can get it in here and be ahead pretty much all the time. and if he flops a boat then nice hand sir

    don't "reevaluate". that would be an absolutely terrible play imo. you're going to un-value-town yourself when you find out he has TT and a Q came on the river and killed your action and now he won't stack off anymore
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    i would call down but bet when he checks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    why is it a pattern that you never have reads
    let's venture a guess, no reads plus timing out....hmmmmmmmmmm wonder what the problem is
    OP needs to stop watching teh porn while playing?
    lolz porn
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    why is it a pattern that you never have reads
    let's venture a guess, no reads plus timing out....hmmmmmmmmmm wonder what the problem is
    this

    teh pron can be very "distracting" ...
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    Okay... simple maths in my defense...

    150 hand session over 3 tables equals 50 hands per table assuming average VPIP of 20% equals 10 hands per player assuming WTSD average of 25% equals 2 1/2 peeks at what they has assuming 90% of hands are small pot bullshit equals .25 meaningful peeks per player which I missed 1/2 of f-king with POS PT3 trying to get a new install to put HUD stats next to the right player so a net note taking oppty of .125 hands....

    see.... no pornz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    this is just a sick bad fold against a MP open+3bet calling range

    I'd just get it in on the flop, he's not folding an overpair cuz ppl suck and there are bad turn cards that could kill your action.
    Exact thoughts too.

    I literally said "oh no" when you folded. At first I thought you were seeing if you should just flat instead of raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    this is just a sick bad fold against a MP open+3bet calling range

    I'd just get it in on the flop, he's not folding an overpair cuz ppl suck and there are bad turn cards that could kill your action.
    Exact thoughts too.

    I literally said "oh no" when you folded. At first I thought you were seeing if you should just flat instead of raise.
    Yeah... folding was unintentional. But I was trying to decide between flat & re-eval or raise when I timed out.
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    Wow - sorry for not reading that part in the OP. But yeah just raise pwease.
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    Ugh this is teh ghey! I go to get a drink of water and...

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    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A
    4 folds, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.85) 7, A, 2 (3 players)
    BB checks, CO checks, Button bets $0.50, 2 folds

    Total pot: $0.85 | Rake: $0
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarbox68
    Okay... simple maths in my defense...

    150 hand session over 3 tables equals 50 hands per table assuming average VPIP of 20% equals 10 hands per player assuming WTSD average of 25% equals 2 1/2 peeks at what they has assuming 90% of hands are small pot bullshit equals .25 meaningful peeks per player which I missed 1/2 of f-king with POS PT3 trying to get a new install to put HUD stats next to the right player so a net note taking oppty of .125 hands....

    see.... no pornz!
    so you saw the guy play 50 hands and you have no idea whether he's a donk, a nit, or a tough reg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    Quote Originally Posted by sarbox68
    Okay... simple maths in my defense...

    150 hand session over 3 tables equals 50 hands per table assuming average VPIP of 20% equals 10 hands per player assuming WTSD average of 25% equals 2 1/2 peeks at what they has assuming 90% of hands are small pot bullshit equals .25 meaningful peeks per player which I missed 1/2 of f-king with POS PT3 trying to get a new install to put HUD stats next to the right player so a net note taking oppty of .125 hands....

    see.... no pornz!
    so you saw the guy play 50 hands and you have no idea whether he's a donk, a nit, or a tough reg?
    No, but I did notice he was interrupting my porn....
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    Quote Originally Posted by shysti
    Ugh this is teh ghey! I go to get a drink of water and...
    That's okay, he obviously had quad 2s... so hydrating was +EV
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    Learn to time your drink gathering / excreting to give you maximum time to get back, like wait till your utg cards come up, if they're no good then off you go and let them time out, should leave plenty of time before your BB hand comes in. Voila, no more facepalms.
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