Yes, I was talking about the ring games. I appreciate the feedback so far, but my real question is: How do you alter your betting if the scare card that completes the flush draw comes up on the turn?

Toasty, you mentioned that by betting half of the pot you do not give proper pot odds for chasing a flush draw. While this LOOKS true on the surface, don't forget that there's such a thing as implied odds. If you continue to build the pot on the turn/river, you could make it worth his while to chase the flush. I always bet the same % of the pot when I bet (a lot of players believe in that, as it doesn't tip off the strength of your hand). Let's use a sample hand to demonstrate:

You're dealt AQo in early position. You limp.

Flop:

As Qs 2d

There's $4 in the pot. You bet 2$ to protect your hand. One caller. He had paid 2$ to chase his flush, remember this. Pot's up to 8$.


Turn: 5s

Now what? I still have high two pair, so if I bet 50% of the pot again, it's 4$ more. He calls, since he's made his flush. Pot's up to 16$.

River: 7h

Well, I still have top 2 pair. If I bet it again, I've pretty much paid him off for chasing that flush. It cost him $2, he's already made $10 more off of the hand by chasing ($4 that was in the pot on the flop, +$2 for your flop raise, +$4 for your turn raise, + whatever your value bet is on the river). And that's just if you don't call his river re-raise!

So if I flush draw completing card comes on the turn and you have a solid hand before that, should you check it? If you get raised hard on the turn after you check should you fold? Is it worse to be passive and let people buy pots from you when you have a great hand or worse to be someone that's actually paying off the muffins who chase their darn flushes? Maybe I should start chasing flushes at least to the turn card when I think someone will keep betting into me if I hit it.

Btw, I usually bet 50% of the pot against a rainbow flop and 75% against a flush draw as a general rule. I do normally drop from 75% to 50% if a flush draw gets made on the turn, to try and reduce the damage in the above scenario.

Thoughts on the above example?