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Thanks all for the great input.
 Originally Posted by martindcx1e
you want to build a pot, but don't get all-in plz. you are usually behind to the type of hand that wants to get all-in against you here. the only way you should push here is if you believe you have a lot of fold equity. you should probably only treat this as a 12-outter.
Do you mean not to go all-in as an open-shove on the flop or not go through a raising war where all the money eventually goes all-in on the flop? If the latter, is it because they are so many people seeing the flop or do you usually play your big draws like that?
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