np easypoker.... didnt leave because of you, but us "soviets" have bad internet connection sometimes.

so again, like other post, maybe i am also not explaining myself correctly, but my question is not if to call or not... my question is about his range for 3betting AI. that is what i want to analyze, he's range for shoving turn. when i played the hand i did call and the moron shoved T8 so i won, for mw its not if i won or not, its if i played the hand right for the long run and if my range for him is correct on the turn.... i posted the hand to see your opinion in his shoving range. i know how to analyze an AI spot, i am still unsure about my skills in range assigning and that is why i posted, to get your opinion on what is he shoving besides nuts and straights so i can corelate that with my thinking and lear more about range assigning....

there are a lot of better players then me here, if not all of them, that is why i am posting all these... so that i can get better in range assigning, so i can do a very close range to what villain is playing in different spots. so please, refer to what he could be shoving here! that is all i want.
..................WAT??????/

That's what we just did "whether I should call the turn" and "what range is villain shoving on the turn" are the same thing as far as the analysis we do goes since whether we call the turn or not depends entirely on what his range is for shoving it!

If you know how to analyse an all in spot then you'd put villain on what you think his range is and stove your equity, you'd also know that analysis wise there is very little difference between assigning him a turn range and deciding if you should call. Calling vs folding is just the final step in the process that actually turns your analysis into profit....