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    Default a few more questions on how to play some hands

    My hand histories got deleted for some reason, but i have them memorized anyways

    Hand #1

    UTG+3 limps in, and i just sat down and posted the BB (25c), im Dealt AQo and raise it up to $1, just UTG+3 calls.. it comes Q82 pure Diamonds (my ace is a spade), since the pot is roughly $2.5, i bet 2$ into it and UTG+3 calls. I'm not too worried, only more so if a diamond comes on the turn. Turn card comes, the board now reads:
    Q827 (3 diamonds)

    The pot is roughly 7$ now and i really want to just take this pot down, so i bet $6 into it, which to me basically says i have a made hand, if you have a drawing hand get the hell out. To my surprise he calls, and i am a bit worried.. river comes and the board now reads:
    Q827A (3 diamonds)

    I realize the 2 pair does not do much, and the pot is now $19. He has $6 left in his stack, im first to act and think to myself i can't check/fold now (or should i?) so i may as well put him all in instead of me calling his sure-to-be all in, i make a crying bet of $6 and he calls.

    How should i have played this hand differently? I think my preflop/flop was ok, but how about the turn/river?

    Hand #2

    Im dealt KK in late position, UTG raises to $1.5 (Big blind = 25c) and UTG +3 re-raises to ($4), my stack is roughly $35 and i push, both call, and in the end i realized i was drawing dead the whole time to AA, theres not much to do about this, but i should push this every time given the raise -reraise?

    Hand #3 I once again get dealt KK in mid position i raise it to $1.75, another person re-raises to $3. Obviously i want all my money in the pot asap right? So i go all in for $25 more and he folds. The more i think about it the more stupid i think that play was, he probably had QQ JJ AK and was probing me, if i just flat called his re-raise i probably would have been able to extract more out of him, or was it right to push? (we were same size stacks)


    Hand #4

    Dealt 10 10 Mid position, some early person raises it x5 bb to $1.25, i flat call it and everyone else folds. The Flop comes Q84 rainbow and he is first to act, the pot is roughly $3 and he bets $4 into it. My stack is roughly $25 at this point. I ended up folding and just carrying on. His overbet seemed a little weird to me, but the more i think about it, if it was a SNG i'd be all over that flop, its not a bad flop for 10 10 at all. Should i have re-raised him to at least $8 and seen where i stand? and if he called and say a 9 fell on the turn and he checks what would you do? And if he called and a 9 fell on the turn and he bets again, that is an easy fold IMO. I was thinking about this hand and realized he could easily have 99 88 JJ AK and such and it was probably a bad fold on my part. How would you have played it? I think i played it too girly to just pack up since i missed my set and an overcard fell.


    Also hands like JTo in mid position, ATo in mid position/early position, Q9s in mid position, do u limp them or just muck? If say 1 or 2 people earlier then you limped. I was at a toss-up the whole time playing ring games figuring out if i should even bother playing these hands


    I played roughly 270 hands 3-tabling the ring games at 10/25c blinds, saw 28% of flops, won 7/10 hands at showdown, and won i believe 18 pots without a showdown. So % wise i think i won between 30-35% of the time i saw a flop. I still finished in the negatives, whether it be my bad play or just hands not paying off when i hit i dont know, ill post more hand histories when i have another session, but im curious as to how you would play Hand 1,2,3,4


    edit::: sorry i posted this in the wrong section, its not Hold'em Strategy, it was suppose to go into Hold'em Hand History,, i don't know how to move it oops.
  2. #2
    Hand 1: I don't think it particularly matters what decision you make as long as it doesn't involve folding, since the pot is entirely too large at that point to fold to a $6 bet if you choose to check. However, I think check-calling is slightly better than putting him all-in since I think the likeliest hands for him to have are a flush or a flush draw (any other hand would've had to've been vastly misplayed, I think), and in both cases you should check on the river. A flush draw seems the most likely, unless perhaps he was slow-playing the nut flush from the flop. The idea is that he will call and win with a flush, or simply fold with a flush draw. You need to give him the option to bluff on the river if he had a flush draw from the flop. It's also possible, but not probable, that he has queens as well, and still you should check-call.

    Hand 2: I would only move all-in if you're absolutely committed to playing this hand all-in before the flop. You may have reraised and then considered folding if the player who reraised was a strong player and decided to make another large reraise. In that case, it's likely he has aces, since any other hand you can expect him to have (K-K is very unlikely) should be more cautious before the flop facing a reraise of a reraise.

    Hand 3: That doesn't seem like such a bad play, though it probably isn't necessary to raise so much. Personally, I don't think you should just call here since you will risk allowing your opponent to cheaply outdraw you on the flop, and also you will miss the opportunity to gain more information which may be useful later on the in the hand.

    Hand 4: Either fold if you think your opponents bet is legitimate (A-K and A-J are really the only hands you can beat here), or call if you suspect it isn't (I think it's a good idea to hedge against the possibility that you are in fact beaten by a hand that would call a raise). If you call, a blank falls on the turn and your opponent checks, then you should bet the pot for a couple reasons. If your opponent is just holding unimproved overcards, as is probably the case, he will have to invest more with the worst hand, and if he has J-J, he may fold the best hand. If he calls your bet, and bets again on the turn, I would probably fold, and if he calls your bet and then checks on the river, I would probably check as well.
  3. #3
    Precursor: I've been having a really bad weekend. Lost quite a bit. Will be analyzing to decide if it was bad play or bad cards. So yeah, don't take what I'm going to say as gospel - just think about my reasoning.

    Hand 1: I'd have slowed down after the flop call. He wasn't scared off with a flush showing and an overcard. Makes me think he has something. Don't lose too much finding out.

    Hand 2: Looks good to me. Sucks that it happened, but no, you couldn't have definitively known it was AA at this level. I was playing NL$50 this morning and faced the same decision. Had two callers - TT and QJs. Board came JT98x.

    Hand 3: I like a smaller reraise here. Make it somewhere between $6 and $10. May take it down, but may get more money in while you can.

    Hand 4: Comes down to reads for me. I'd fold without them, but I've been criticized as playing too tight postflop. Would be nice to know what overbetting means from this guy.
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  4. #4
    Do you like the turn bet in hand 1? To me it's commiting him to a pot he may easily be drawing dead on.
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  5. #5
    I think it's probably the right decision, since he expects to have the best hand a large percentage of the time. An overpair should've reraised before the flop and two pair or a set should have raised on the flop. Essentially, he's only worried about a flush, which (partly for statistical reasons) is much less likely than a flush draw.

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