Red, come on, even regfish do not contribute to the bottom line of a poker site. Without new deposits the rake would slowly dry up as first the fish would be gone, then the regfish would be absorbed by rake and better players and the better players would run out of money because of rake and withdrawals. It's all fed by new deposits and all the sites earnings (rake) is generated by new deposits. How would any site even Stars or Full Tilt survive for more than even a couple weeks without fresh deposits? I already said that it's the regs that expedite the deposits from fish and recreational players to the sites faster and is the only reason that winning multitabling players are accepted by the sites. Do you think they would allow you to withdraw and be a drain on their system if the deposits suddenly stopped? Without new money, the sites will fail to survive. We are all dependent on new deposits, and the sites know this, it's why they spend so much money on new player advertising and why bonus's and RB is becoming harder to earn. You need to admit your worng in this case and maybe also understand that it's deposits that make money for sites in the broader scope and not the direct rake that is what allows the sites to survive.