The fantastic donk style

Yeah I cant beat them anymore.

Raise preflop? Call always.

C-bet? Call with any pair or any overcard to the river, no matter what.

Hit the flop? Fold like clean clothes. (coincidence)

How do I beat this player???

Only bet when I have a made hand? Only continue with the nuts if they raise me?

For a while I was beating them, but the last three days they own me. I'm their bitch. I dont stack them anymore. They know exactly when I have the nuts and lay down, and they know precisely when I bricked the flop and play back at me, or call to river with bottom pair.

Whats the winning strategy vs a loose passive calling station??? I forgot it?

This player plays mostly on the weekends and holidays.

Originally Posted by Werddown

Whats the winning strategy vs a loose passive calling station???

Originally Posted by Werddown

bet when I have a made hand?

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Originally Posted by Werddown

Whats the winning strategy vs a loose passive calling station???

Originally Posted by Werddown

bet when I have a made hand?

I raise AQ from the button. EP limper calls. Flop comes All low cards.

I'm not supposed to c-bet?

Because they always have one of those low cards, with their Ace or King or Queen or Jack or, TEN. Me having an overpair never enters their mind. They paired one of thier hole cards, and thats good enough for them... And god forbid I don't cbet and check behind.. Well, they're now on a mission to take the pot away from me regardless of their hand. I checked the flop, after all. Queen high is good.

They dont ever stack me... They just take down 10bbs after 10bbs after 10bbs and they fold when I actually have hands.

Yeah most likely I'm just running bad... but... Some of it has to be me.

Nothing wrong with cbetting at all.

And I think this has to be mostly varience.

You get your money from the calling stations when they keep calling you down when you finally do have a hand to cbet with.

You're right I'm an idiot. It's variance. Fuck you variance!!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($31.15)
Hero ($23.45)
MP3 ($23.40)
CO ($19.05)
Button ($24.20)
SB ($7.90)
BB ($25)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($40.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Button calls $1.25, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1.

Flop: ($4.10) 6, J, K (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($10.10) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button calls $7.

River: ($24.10) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.2 (All-In), Button calls $12.20.

Final Pot: $48.50


Hero has Kd Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Button has Ah Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $48.50.

TAKE THAT CALLING STATION

Originally Posted by Werddown

You're right I'm an idiot.

nah not an idiot, trust me I know what you're feeling... I went through basically the same thing in a few day span... cbets getting picked off, making stupid calls, getting outdrawn... it maked me go

OWNED.

Originally Posted by Werddown

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Originally Posted by Werddown

Whats the winning strategy vs a loose passive calling station???

Originally Posted by Werddown

bet when I have a made hand?

I raise AQ from the button. EP limper calls. Flop comes All low cards.

I'm not supposed to c-bet?

Because they always have one of those low cards, with their Ace or King or Queen or Jack or, TEN. Me having an overpair never enters their mind. They paired one of thier hole cards, and thats good enough for them... And god forbid I don't cbet and check behind.. Well, they're now on a mission to take the pot away from me regardless of their hand. I checked the flop, after all. Queen high is good.

They dont ever stack me... They just take down 10bbs after 10bbs after 10bbs and they fold when I actually have hands.

Yeah most likely I'm just running bad... but... Some of it has to be me.

If you know they arent putting you on an overpair, why cbet? If they are calling stations, what does cbetting do when you miss? It gives them more money. Just check it down and fold if they bet at you, youll make back the blinds and your small raise when you do hit, you lose money by bluffing into a calling station.

PokerStars Game #5499583569: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/07/09 - 00:44:31 (ET)
Table 'Hektor' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Werddown ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: Pocket AK ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 3: OlsonSJ ($11.20 in chips)
Seat 4: 70 skylark ($8.85 in chips)
Seat 5: dotsey ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 6: gstring333 ($13 in chips)
70 skylark: posts small blind $0.05
dotsey: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Werddown [Qs Ad]
gstring333: calls $0.10
Werddown: raises $0.40 to $0.50
Pocket AK: folds
OlsonSJ: folds
70 skylark: folds
dotsey: calls $0.40
gstring333: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 4d 7h]
dotsey: checks
Werddown: bets $1
dotsey: calls $1
*** TURN *** [8h 4d 7h] [Td]
dotsey: checks
Werddown: bets $2
dotsey: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [8h 4d 7h Td] [2d]
dotsey: checks
Werddown: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dotsey: shows [Ah 3s] (high card Ace)
Werddown: shows [Qs Ad] (high card Ace - Queen kicker)


WTF

I seriously think it's my Dave Chapelle Rick James avatar.

Originally Posted by Werddown

I seriously think it's my Dave Chapelle Rick James avatar.

So make your avatar goatse and see what happens lol.

I totally feel you...i've had so may crazy ass suckouts and bad beats sense i switched to WSEX i'm starting to believe all the crazies that say it is rigged and full of bots. and i never get played back at w/ nuts. the other day i bet 4xbb from utg w/ aces and had 6 callers!...how many people called when i bet 2 on flop of a-9-9......0. i had a lady call me down to 2/3 bets on flop and turn w/ an inside straight draw! people constantly chasing against me and getting lucky. i had some guy check raise me on the flop and the turn w/ nothing but k high! guess what card he hit on the river...yup a king. blah...it sucks. i'm paranoid now, playing poker scares me.

for those of you who think wsex isn't worth playing because there are too many regulars who are good...well this is somewhat true...but trust me there are a ton of donks who chase...flushes against very big bets. with a little luck i think i can make a lot of money at wsex...that is...if they stop rigging the deck against me! poker is rigged! rigged i tell you! (this is a joke.........at least i think it is)

It was just variance... I'm up 10 buy-ins since I made this post

I feel better now.. Just play through that shit... And stay aggressive, don't get passive.. Thats what I did.

variance makes every player feel as if they dont know what theyre doing.

always good to make sure which is true.

keep betting, variance works both ways