Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
Monty giving him just the right price would be correct if he would fold for any amount less. However, against a fish we know that they will continue against even improper odds. Therefore we want to find a bet-size that gets them to call but to do so incorrectly.

I know they first thing that comes into everyone's mind on this subject is betting to protect our hand but when our opponent will continue with a marginal hand (i.e. a wide range of hands) there are many cool things we can do to exploit this.

Anyone have any ideas?
Ah, I do see where my statment was incorrect, I should have rephrased it to bet larger to take his odds away from him, I think I was thinking correctly, but expressing it wrong.

I do think there is a lot of benefit in learning to let villian take the initiative when he is behind (this is something CodeRed and I have worked on a bit) and I no longer c-bet every flop when I have equity. I tend to mix it up quite a bit, especially when my hand is well hidden, hoping to give the intiative away to the fish, letting him jump onto the hook and climb his own way into the boat...

Example: Last night was playing on Stars and guy to my left ran 86/63/1 over about 80 hands... totally crazy play... knowing he will lead out on pretty much anything, any time I had good hole cards, I would either call BB or min-raise, he would bet 7-9x BB and I'd call and we'd be isolated... he also couldn't let go of anything, saw him go AI with 23o, 45s, etc. all on uncoordinated and losing boards...

Maybe not the best example, but knowing his characteristics led to a lot of fun letting him lead his way down a path to ruin. Guy went through like 3 BIs on my table in about 17 minutes. I will look him up every night.