funny you mention that, pank. actually, you are bringing me back to micro-basics...lol. when you move up, you sometimes cant move back down...the worlds are just THAT much different, imo.

10NL and 25NL seem to be the breaking point, for me. 50NL plays even easier. i just enjoy destroying the 10NLers. i'll get to the "challenge" here in a minute...since we seem to have some interest generated here.

the secret to 10NL, imo, is like you said. you cant be TOO aggressive. that doesnt mean you HAVE TO BE aggressive. it means SLOW DOWN.

down here, you hide behind limpers. you raise pf bigger w/ premiums. you dont cbet like a monkey. you dont 2 barrel often. YOU WILL NOT BLOW THESE FISH OFF POTS!!! the "fold button" is much smaller on their screens than it is yours; i doubt any of them could tell you where that button is.

when i ran my best, not currently, i ran about 20/10/2.5 at fr and 18/9/2 in 6max. and, that may be too aggressive. i would venture to say, you need to run tight, 18ish, passive, 7ish, aggressive, 2ish. you need to see WHO is the spewtard, and call them down light. you need to see who to cbet and who NOT to (hint: most of them). you need a pretty solid pf game and a decent game on the flop. after that, at this level, i dont think it matters much.

do that, and you should run double digits. however, i have been overplaying a lot of hands (habits from higher limits that dont crossover lower). and, it has me on a 10BI downswing over 5k hands...most of it playing 200 bb's deep...so, really about 5 FULL BI's. but, whatever.

i am just warning you guys right now. you need to be able to KEEP CONFIDENCE IN YOUR GAME if you are dropping levels to help me. the "winning" habits you pick up down here may get even with you when you move back up.

i want to see who comes out of the "challenge" best. we will run it for 15k hands...should be 3-4 weeks for most of us. or, break it up over longer, thats fine. heres what i want...

- pick ONE site for your "experiment."
- update your play here fairly often...not every day/session.
- show stats/graphs
- spot trends, and post them with explanation in your "updates."

after your "challenge" is over...

- please summarize HOW you adjusted...and why it worked/didnt work.
- post your final stats. vpip/pfr/AF/W$WSF/cbet %, and let us see your "position stats, too." and, if you dont mind, throw in a graph, if you can.


i think it will be helpful for others to see, at this level, the variance. but, more importantly...the DIFFERENCES between this level, and the one you normally play.

who's in? and where will you be playing?