Do you call 13 outs on the flop when he has an overpair?

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ll-173396.html


This is a pretty vague example, so lets say you hold: Th5c

The flop is: 8hTc9d

and you know for a fact villain has {JJ+}

size of the pot: 160 (115+30+15)

size of bet: 115

pokerstove says:

Hand 0: 18.384% { Th5c }
Hand 1: 81.616% { JJ+ }

115/(160+115)=41%

41%>18.3% so the call is -EV

Originally Posted by fatguy'06

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This is a pretty vague example, so lets say you hold: Th5c

The flop is: 8hTc9d

and you know for a fact villain has {JJ+}

size of the pot: 160 (115+30+15)

size of bet: 115

pokerstove says:

Hand 0: 18.384% { Th5c }
Hand 1: 81.616% { JJ+ }

115/(160+115)=41%

41%>18.3% so the call is -EV

call me retarded but how do we have 13 outs here? i see 5...