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    I'm interested to see what the big hitters have to say about this hand. Extracting maximum value from sets is a skill that takes time to develop, and it's certainly not a skill I've mastered.

    My view is, I don't like to c/r this flop, it's uber-dry and we've got next to the nuts. If MP is solid, then he might fold Ax to a raise, and he's definitely folding KK-. I like to c/c this.

    I don't like to check the turn. Appreciated, we're out of position and not the aggressor, but now is the time to start extracting value. I like a 70% bet here, and same on river. I think MP can call down Ax while folding out his KK- (which he's pretty much c/f-ing now). As for the fish, he has Ax in his range too, so he could be calling to showdown.

    A note about the half-pot river bet...

    Is it better to bet $1.30 and get paid off 60% of the time, or to bet $2 and get paid off 50% of the time? I'm throwing these numbers out to provoke thought, obviously I don't know how often villain calls a river bet of $2, but there's not too many hands he calls at $1.30 and folds at $2.
    Last edited by OngBonga; 06-09-2011 at 10:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm interested to see what the big hitters have to say about this hand. Extracting maximum value from sets is a skill that takes time to develop, and it's certainly not a skill I've mastered.
    Same here!
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga
    My view is, I don't like to c/r this flop, it's uber-dry and we've got next to the nuts. If MP is solid, then he might fold Ax to a raise, and he's definitely folding KK-. I like to c/c this.
    My thinking as well. Obviously there is an argument for c/r flop and with the uberfish I think it likely he would have called but he was also very aggressive so I wanted to give him a second shot at the pot and then hit him.
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga
    I don't like to check the turn. Appreciated, we're out of position and not the aggressor, but now is the time to start extracting value. I like a 70% bet here, and same on river. I think MP can call down Ax while folding out his KK- (which he's pretty much c/f-ing now). As for the fish, he has Ax in his range too, so he could be calling to showdown.
    With the benefit of hindsight I think this would have definitely been the better way to play it. I think MP was always c/fing to the river after getting 2 calls so I should have concentrated more on getting value from the fish. I think he would have called down with Ax all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga
    A note about the half-pot river bet...

    Is it better to bet $1.30 and get paid off 60% of the time, or to bet $2 and get paid off 50% of the time? I'm throwing these numbers out to provoke thought, obviously I don't know how often villain calls a river bet of $2, but there's not too many hands he calls at $1.30 and folds at $2.
    Point taken. In future I will try even harder to not let the past unduly influence my play.

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