Quote Originally Posted by PlayToWin
Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I make a lot of money overbet shoving the nuts against people who think that 9th nuts is the nuts
The ninth nuts? Is my flush really that bad? I would think that "at this level" he could be betting an overpair. Even if the board had not paired on the river, he's still going to continue betting his set, most likely. At least tell me it would have been a big laydown. There was a recent post here where betting every street and calling an AI with an overpair was collectively (by the regs) thought to be a standard play.
w/o seeing the other hand I would guess it was a completely different situation as we were being bet into on this hand. People at this level are typically incapable of overbet shoving so much money as a bluff, and other ppl (you included at the moment) are incapable of folding like the 10th nuts here for a 2xpot shove. Yea, your hand is crushed by his river shoving range because he'll:

a. rarely have trip jacks after he bet the flop and the Jd fell on the river
b. rarely have bet the turn with/out 2pr (J9) a set or a straight
c. would never shove the river when the board pairs and the flush comes in with a straight or a hand like 56