Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
Quote Originally Posted by Lukie
However, playing this way with air too often, after you've just shown a lot of loose action or into loose players tends to be badly -EV.
Fixed your post. I think air is an important part of my range here. The meat that you might be bluffing baits the trap.
For metagame purposes against smart players, I agree. For example, the JJvKTo hand between ourselves may help you get paid off down the road when you actually have the monster you were repping.

In isolation however, I feel the situation you presented is -EV to be bluff raising a PFRer on an A-high flop, unless he is really weak-tight. It also seems that 'shania' and it's implications mean little to many of the softer players that comprise the low/middleish stakes games. I could be way off base here, but I do agree that the ability to play air like this, LIKE ANY AGRESSIVE line, needs to be incorporated into your game. In isolation, I just don't think the situation you presented to be a very good one. It's one, for example, you could legitimtely raise a wide range to the point where a set is likely to get paid off by an AK type hand anyway.