Quote Originally Posted by yeardley
The advice posted above is good. Stick with tourneys if they make you money. If you really decide you want to switch to ring games, make the transition slow and make your decision wisely. Learn about ring game play and why your tournament moves won't make for a happy ending if you use them.

for example i raised all in with ace king on an ace flop with a flush draw got called by an ace 3 and an ace 4. the turn came 3, the river came 4.
This is what you get at these tables. It isn't uncommon where I have the nuts...say, the nut straight, my opponent is shortstacked and I raise huge, then they put themselves all-in while on a flush draw. I call and they see my hand, begin to realize that they just effed themselves, until the card they were drawing to falls on the turn or the river. I'm left with my D in my hand trying to remind myself I did the right thing while they are telling themselves that they are the best cardplayer at the table. Invariably they lose 1/2 of what they won to other crap players over the next two hands and then leave. Every time. It sucks, but you just take the good with the bad and keep rolling...the good will come in more often over time.

how can i win if everytime i put my chips in i get about 4 callers with middle pair or bottom pair or top pair poor kicker

Simply, there are too many outs for me to dodge and i lose despite being best when the money goes in

So my question, how do i stop this happening?
Wait for a better hand on the flop than TPTK to go all-in unless you are up against the short-stacked desperate disbeliever. Once you get the hand where you really slay somebody at the table for a giant chunk of their stack, your new image will control some of those loose callers for the next hand you want to play. Until then, it's a part of the game that you sometimes have to fold some good hands (or at the very least, not go all-in with them) when they're not working out for you, or when the table isn't letting you play them properly. (Don't let the table force you to play a hand improperly...release it)

My advice is to not put all your money in with TPTK very often anyway, especially against two or more possible callers, but even against one. If these players will call PFR's with an Ace and any other card (often the case), it's hard to put them on a specific hand, and a flop that comes Ace+rags does not always mean you are ahead with AK. Assuming they are shortstacked (often the case), bet enough so it hurts them to call and see if they do. Lean on them if you think they are getting desperate and your TPTK is good. Otherwise, don't pay off their crap hand when it hits. Wait for your sets or monsters or whatever and let TPTK or worse pay you off instead.

Generally these same players don't have an idea of how to figure out when you might be on a draw or how to screw your pot odds (purposely) when you are. Even if they do and start betting or raising their hand, the other players don't understand when someone is trying to protect a made hand and it will often come back to you with the pot odds to justify a call. So I like to save pushing my stack, for the most part, on those pots where I've seen the river and the pot is already large, and I have my nuts. If you are patient, there will be plenty of opportunities for you to go all-in when your hand is much less vulnerable than TPTK, or not vulnerable at all.

but i would like to be able to pick up some quick money at cash games if i havent got time for an hour sit and go or a 3 hour MTT
I think this is the wrong idea. People joke about these limits all the time, and for good reason. But I really believe you have to respect the game you are going into until you have proven that you can beat it, or you will wind up getting fried. These games are not ATM's for you to just collect from as soon as you sit down, simply because you might be a better player than most of the opposition. You'll actually have to put forth a little bit of 'better play' first. Occasionally you'll sit down and money will come quickly. Sometimes it will take a while. Except for when you have the stone cold nuts, you will still need some time to observe and figure out the other players at the table just like you do in a tournament. If you rush to try to make a profitable session out of half an hour, you will only succeed sometimes, and the other times you will find yourself trying to manufacture wins that don't pan out. You will be lucky if you break-even doing this, so don't think of it this way.
Excellent reply thank you

the last paragraph is where i may have been going wrong

also, i only bring about 8 dollars to a table because i dont like the thought of losing 30 dollars i have hard earned in sng's to a moron via a bad beat. i think maybe to be successful in cash games the maximum buy in is advantageous? do u agree?