Quote Originally Posted by scgolfer
Can you be successful playing that many hands and getting away from non winners post flop?
In limit, no way. In No Limit, particularly short handed against thinking players with deep money, yes!

At the lower levels NL is a nut peddling game. Make a top pairish hand and watch them call off their stack with all sorts of crap. Push AA/KK pre-flop and not be surpised when TT calls, etc. All of this was going on durring the golden age of Party Poker $25 full before 6 max came around. 6 max still plays like this, but with the blinds comming around twice as often camping premium hands isn't as profitable.

At higher levels with deeper money it's a game of people as much as cards. I see hand histories posted here all the time without reguard to reads or table texture. This works fine for low stakes NL nut peddling or full ring limit games (where 95% of your decisions are straight forward.) When you move up and into short-handed games the people become more important as the amount of piss-poor play decreases. This is even more important in NL vs Limit as well because you have bigger decisions to make with less action to work from.

Another thing to keep in mind is that when you're seeing 30-45% of flops your variance goes through the roof. Short-term you can expect to strike it big or bust or both really fast. Which could explain the short term results you see for players. The long-term outlook is much fuzzier.

Anyway, this is more or less along the lines of what I discovered as I tried to move up as a cash NL player.

I imagine Ttanka, Eric, Xianti, The Natural, etc. might have more to add here as they're still playing these games activly...