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	Against an unknown, i would probably pitch an overpair against this line. If i knew my opponent was tricky, i would probably c/c turn bet/fold river. It is very unlikely anyone would try to bluff us on the river if we played our hand this way.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by minSim  Hand 1: 33 is in my range  here as well .  
Being villain  here, are you laying down AA ? JJ ? TT ? 
Are those usually the same on this board? 
Being villain , are you betting the turn  with AA ? with JJ ? 
 
 
	If i got raised on the flop with an overpair, i would call the flop and c/f turn. Again, with more information on the opponent, sometimes shoving the flop for value would work (Yeti theorem thing).
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by minSim Hand 2: I think I'm  with you here. 
As played though, again being villain  are you laying down AA ? JJ ? 
Would you somewhere lay them down if hero  raised flop ? 
 
 
	I think we were interpreting "good" hand readers on different levels lol.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by minSim Hand 3: I don 't really know about making a play on this one.  
You're saying we are being looked up lighter by the better players, I partly disagree with that. I think you'll get lookedup a lot by everyone. 
But shouldn't we get looked up less  by the good handreaders? 
Compare this one with Hand 2. An A is a bigger part of our range  than an T, so it's more likely that we hit our board. 
Tbh I think on this board our FE  is the least of all, so playing agressive when we actually did hit would be very good, imo . 
 It's a scary board, but a good opponent with history would know you would float the flop as a bluff sometimes since it is very unlikely he could be holding an Ace. If i was villain and playing against an unknown, the proposition of having to call a turn and a river bet with two Aces on the board would be scary without an Ace. But yeah when we actually hit trips on this board we should be raising the flop.
 
 
 
	I would raise the flop with a hand like K-10/A-10 for value, but just calling with other 10-x hands is fine without information. As for the hands playing differently, i think most players at lower limits would consider 10-x in our range with a flop float on either board, so i don't think a turn raise would "feel" any different.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by minSim Hand 4: I disagree with you this is the same as hand 2. I think villain  puts us on a T here a lot more then in hand 2. We are never raising the flop  here with a T and we are in hand 2. 
 
 
	IMO a 3/4PSB and a 5/4PSB are tough for villain to call on the river without a read/history, so the difference in implied threat is at best slight.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by minSim Hand 5: You could be right here, I don 't know a lot and/or have a lot of experience with playing deeper. 
The reason I put this scenario in is that our turn raise  with 100bb doesn't leave a lot behind , so maybe we'll get looked up lighter then being 150bb deep . In both situation we are attacking villains whole stack , so I guess it makes a different if you're risking 100bb or 150bb. 
I can also see a difference in raising flop  or turn . With 100bb a flop raise could  be more scary as a turn raise could  be at 150bb. I'm  not sure about that though. 
 Now that I've taken a look at your post, will you take a look at my A-K post in this part of the forum plz? Hopefully you can add/correct some of my thoughts!
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