Like i've said, i've had it 1274 times and open pushed it 3 and i can justify all 3 of those. I'm not going by any memory i'm looking through my hand histories. If you dont like the play dont use it, I do on occasion. I like it and find it to be a winner for me. All 3 times i've open pushed it was from the button with the SB/BB and 2 or 3 people who posted behind.