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  1. #1

    Default On the button with Q9s...

    SB was 57/17/6 over 74hands and my note said "bets his draws"
    MP 75/0/1.6 over 5 hands
    CO 30/0/.06 76 hands
    I was not using my hud while playing this session
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($3.48)
    UTG ($15.51)
    MP ($6.12)
    CO ($8.88)
    Hero (Button) ($5.19)
    SB ($12.14)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, 9
    1 fold, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.23, 1 fold, MP calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20
    With two limper I decide to go for the dead money or isolate one of them. I have position and a relative good hand

    Flop: ($1.05) 9, 7, 5 (4 players)
    SB bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.60, MP calls $1.60
    When the SB donks and my note says he bets draws. My range for his bet is flush draws, a straight draw or weaker 9
    The CO since he just flats the sb bets, his hand can not be that strong so I decide that a riase is best. It folds the flushes the straight draws. And I will get value from T9,J9, 98. I am aware that I could be facing K9 A9 97 or set but I would expect a raise with those hands

    Turn: ($7.05) 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks
    The turn is where I may have dropped the ball.
    My plan was to shove if it got checked to me. But I hesitated and opted for the check. The same range that I put the SB would check this turn and A9 or a set would bet here. So my hand can still be ahead. What confused me was the CO calling when he is showing weakness which made me question a shove.
    River: ($7.05) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75
    At this point the bet is so small that calling is obvious.
    Total pot: $9.30 | Rake: $0.40
    I just felt that my play on this hand was bad and was not sure what to do.
    Any help would be appreciated
    Thanks
  2. #2
    I wouldn't have played this hand.

    But if I did I would have raised more pre flop to isolate to one player. Unless you're set mining (or have the nut flush etc), large multiway pots suck.
  3. #3
    Guest
    SB was 57/17/6 over 74hands and my note said "bets his draws"
    MP 75/0/1.6 over 5 hands
    CO 30/0/.06 76 hands
    I was not using my hud while playing this session
    what's the point of giving the stats?!

    why don't you say
    SB was active and bet his draws
    MP was new to the table but limped a few hands
    CO was passive

    pf is fine IMO
    flop is... ugh
    pokerstove KcTc vs. Qd9d on that flop
    here I'll do it for you

    Board: 9c 7c 5d
    Hand 0: 53.333% 53.33% 00.00% 528 0.00 { KcTc }
    Hand 1: 46.667% 46.67% 00.00% 462 0.00 { Qd9d }

    we're behind a high flush draw, obviously behind straight flush draw, pair + flush draw, etc.
    we're SLIGHTLY ahead of A2 or K2 type of flush draw (we're 55%)
    we're 60% against T8o

    basically raising here is kind of shitty because we're a coinflip against his entire range and he might FOLD a second pair
    and he's NEVER folding a flush or straight draw wtf are you thinking

    98 also has 30% equity due to the straight draw, but we only have 18% equity vs. K9/A9
    call and bet a safe turn card
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    SB was 57/17/6 over 74hands and my note said "bets his draws"
    MP 75/0/1.6 over 5 hands
    CO 30/0/.06 76 hands
    I was not using my hud while playing this session
    what's the point of giving the stats?!

    why don't you say
    SB was active and bet his draws
    MP was new to the table but limped a few hands
    CO was passive

    pf is fine IMO
    flop is... ugh
    pokerstove KsTs vs. Qd9d on that flop
    here I'll do it for you

    Board: 9s 7s 5d
    Hand 0: 53.333% 53.33% 00.00% 528 0.00 { KcTc }
    Hand 1: 46.667% 46.67% 00.00% 462 0.00 { Qd9d }

    we're behind a high flush draw, obviously behind straight flush draw, pair + flush draw, etc.
    we're SLIGHTLY ahead of A2 or K2 type of flush draw (we're 55%)
    we're 60% against T8o

    basically raising here is kind of shitty because we're a coinflip against his entire range and he might FOLD a second pair
    and he's NEVER folding a flush or straight draw wtf are you thinking

    98 also has 30% equity due to the straight draw, but we only have 18% equity vs. K9/A9
    call and bet a safe turn card
    Just to avoid any confusion, agree with what your saying though iopq
  5. #5
    iopq
    in your analysis (which kicks ass)
    are u forgetting that the MP also called.
    Or do you put them on the same range.
  6. #6
    Guest
    well, actually with MP it gets worse because now if one has a flush draw and the other has a straight draw you have like almost no equity on the flop if you raise and both call

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