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Believing in flow of the game?

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    Default Believing in flow of the game?

    This topic , it's seem illogical in reality
    but sometimes I feel like if I can winplay with any kinds of hand
    and make some streaks win in the meantime
    for example :
    1st game : got AQ result = normally win some pots
    2nd game : got 88 flop = 8 4 3
    3rd game : got 72 off suited ! someone raising I fold and flop = 7 7 10 , turn = another 7 !!

    on the other hand when other players get on to something like this
    although I got premium hands like AA , AK , KK , QQ , I will lost to this guy anyways.. I should stop for a while until the flow that favour him had been stop

    Sometimes the card going on like for one seat around 5-6 games


    Edit : Sorry if this topic seem stupid or posting in wrong group
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    Default Re: Believing in flow of the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by FateAver
    got 72 off suited ! someone raising I fold
    Good job, way to go, keep it up
    (Josh)
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    Do you believe in magic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    Do you believe in magic?
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    This isn't game flow, this is variance. Thread needs to be renamed.
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    Hot streaks are real, but for another reason than luck or variance. Its all about the shifting of general Fold Equity. With several good hands in a row, assuming you win without showdown, your Fold Equity plummets and therefore you get paid big when you have Equity advantage.

    Same goes for dry runs (not getting cards, not hitting flops) and your general Fold Equity rises. This allows for a fake streak without getting cards.

    When you understand the dynamics of general Fold Equity you can create profitable situations no matter what cards you are dealt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pawnalot
    Hot streaks are real, but for another reason than luck or variance. Its all about the shifting of general Fold Equity. With several good hands in a row, assuming you win without showdown, your Fold Equity plummets and therefore you get paid big when you have Equity advantage.

    Same goes for dry runs (not getting cards, not hitting flops) and your general Fold Equity rises. This allows for a fake streak without getting cards.

    When you understand the dynamics of general Fold Equity you can create profitable situations no matter what cards you are dealt.
    Everything I've bolded here, while not always true, is a direct byproduct of variance when it is true.
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    True, we exploit the variance- instead of being victimized by it.

    Ofcourse this is not true versus mass multitablers and people not able to adjust.
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    A wise man learns from his own mistakes, and those of the smart man and the fool.
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    wow and there's 1 vote for choice 1 ! (not me because i vote for choice 3 lol)
    and thank you for some good and useful response

    btw. lol at YugiOH I like this anime too...
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    I voted 3 too, but that is because I do not know what flow is in regards to poker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pawnalot
    True, we exploit the variance- instead of being victimized by it.

    Ofcourse this is not true versus mass multitablers and people not able to adjust.
    I'd rather think of it as exploiting peoples reactions (or lack of) to things like us raising 6 hands in a row.
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    Sure I believe in it ... but why does it only happen AGAINST me?
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    Ok, so you think of variance as variation of our Expected Value- either positive or negative.

    There are other kinds of variance too, but maybe you call it something differently. Like variance in cards being dealt (going three days without getting aces, or getting aces three times in a row).

    Thanks really, ppl often get pissed when I confuse the terms like I often do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pawnalot
    Ok, so you think of variance as variation of our Expected Value- either positive or negative.

    There are other kinds of variance too, but maybe you call it something differently. Like variance in cards being dealt (going three days without getting aces, or getting aces three times in a row).

    Thanks really, ppl often get pissed when I confuse the terms like I often do.
    Variance (via standard deviation) is basically the difference between how often something happens over a sample and how often it would really happen on average, so you're right, all of those things are examples of variance.

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