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Beating crazy play.
This is kinda the same thread as the "How do I bead bad players" one but I want to expand on that a bit and tailor it too my own situation.
I just started playing in a new room and I must say the standard of play is some of the fishiest play I've seen ever, and I cant beat it!!! Grr! I've read the "How do I bead bad players" thread and the advice given over there is the type of strategy I used to beat Royal Vegas Poker when I played there, the same game doesnt seem to be working here so I need to come up with something new.
I moved my roll over from RVP yesterday and the strategy i was using to win over there i'm finding pretty useless in fortune. RVP $10NL was a complete rock-fest compared to this.
TAGGing these tables ain't working like it used to at RVP. I was running at 9ptbb/100 at RVP over 15000 hands over there. My game was rather low varience too so I'm not used to this swingy swingy play. I'm just saying this to show that I know how to TAGG/nut camp if thats whats called for, I'm not trying to boast (its not even worth boasting about).
Also my sample size is small in this new site but most of this is based on general table observations.
Table conditions:
1) No preflop raise means > 8 players to the flop.
This basically means your limped TPTK is actually jack shit.
2) A 15 - 20xbb raise may get called by nobody in one hand and 3 people the hand after.
I cant isolate to protect my hands properly.
3) If you raise preflop you are pretty much playing for your stack in one hand.
eg. Dealt AA, raise to 20bb, 2 callers, pot is $6 with $8 left in your stack. I find if you bet less then pot they call, you push to protect they fold. There is no middle ground.
4) I find it impossible to put people on hands.
eg. One hand I have JJ in LP, raise over approx. 7 limpers to 15x preflop. 2 callers. Flop comes rags and my over pair gets check raised all-in by TPNK! I nearly folded this hand. A few hands later the exact same situation occurs but I loose to a set. I feel like I'm playing blind a lot of the time.
5) Everybody is a calling station.
I've had overpairs busted by a really slow-played (calling station) higher overpair loads of times. But I cant put the opp on a hand reliably enough to fold it. Also by the turn I'm already in for 1/2 my stack so its pretty much push/fold without being able raise etc. to obtain more info. from the opp.
How do I beat this type of game most successfully? Or do I just keep TAGGing away at it and try to deal with the varience?
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