Quote Originally Posted by HalvSame
4 to call / (5.25 in pot before turn action + your first 4 + his 8 + your second 4)
4/(5.25+4+8+4) = 4/21.25 ~= 18.8%.

Or (17.25/4 =) 4.3 to 1.

Without knowing the exact passage, he's probably trying to say that you need to count the second 4 as part of the pot.
i hope so, i had to stop and go, "whaaaaa?" when i read it. i will have to look again. i dont want to dispute Sklansky, and may have read it wrong, but when you pitch $4 into the pot...its gone...its now part of the pot. thats why we love minraisers...they dont take away odds when they do it. they just tell us our implieds are even stronger currently.

and, in limit, we bet our big draws when we think villain will raise...to build a pot because villain can NOT take away our odds with a simple raise, right?

oh, and in ToP, its towards the beginning because i'm only 60ish pages in.