Bad win without showdown

My hold'em manager chart shows my win without showdown to be pretty damn negative.

I have an overall + monies at 25NL but all the money comes from showdown and without showdown is like a straight line downwards.

Is this because i fold too much? Or do i not try to bet draws out of my made hands enough?
I'm obviously not too fussed as long as i keep making money but i feel it's a leak and i don't know what to do to stop it. I make TPTK laydowns against unknown facing aggression etc; should i be more prepared to risk my stack and make notes after?

Clar

What are your attempt to steal, won $ when saw flop, won without showdown, and won at showdown?

There's a lot of threads about this fyi

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

What are your attempt to steal, won $ when saw flop, won without showdown, and won at showdown?

(I have Hold'em Manager so i dunno how to do total steal % but i got it from position)
Attempt to steal from cutoff: 23.8
Attempt to steal from button: 32.4
Attempt to steal from SB: 35.8
Won $ WSF: 42.9
Won $ SD: 50.9

After a 50k hand sample i'm +$72.18, Won $ at showdown $1810.40, Won $ WO Showdown: -$1738.30.

Most worrying thing is in last 15k hands i've gone on a 20 BI downswing. With -$300 in the last 3k hands. (I think it's been coolers but maybe a few i could get away from, probably will post them)

VPIP is 20.4
PFR 15.8
3Bet 5.5

fwiw.

Any help appreciated,
Clar

Originally Posted by Clar17y

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

What are your attempt to steal, won $ when saw flop, won without showdown, and won at showdown?

(I have Hold'em Manager so i dunno how to do total steal % but i got it from position)
Attempt to steal from cutoff: 23.8
Attempt to steal from button: 32.4
Attempt to steal from SB: 35.8
Won $ WSF: 42.9
Won $ SD: 50.9

After a 50k hand sample i'm +$72.18, Won $ at showdown $1810.40, Won $ WO Showdown: -$1738.30.

Most worrying thing is in last 15k hands i've gone on a 20 BI downswing. With -$300 in the last 3k hands. (I think it's been coolers but maybe a few i could get away from, probably will post them)

VPIP is 20.4
PFR 15.8
3Bet 5.5

fwiw.

Any help appreciated,
Clar

I'm assuming first that you play 6-max. Then I would think it's something about your post-flop play since your pre-flop play looks pretty solid as best as I know.

Yes i do play 6-max and it's nice to know that my pre-flop is pretty solid thanks

I think it is to do with my post flop play too. I know how to put people on ranges but i rarely tend to do it when it matters.

I also seem to get into big pots with big hands and always be beat. Yet my stats would seem to show i fold too much.
I think i get scared easily by big bets when i'm only holding a pair even though there is a chance villain could be bluffing, and may be folding the best hand because i don't feel comfortable bloating the pot with just 1 pair.

Then again whenever i have a set, i tend to get it all in regardless of the action and never think to fold. I have only folded a set once, and it was in a 3 way pot when i had a good read on a villain.
Example of previous statement would be like being minraised on flop and then on turn with bottom set but thinking "screw it i have a set poooosh!". Or aces with a low connected flop (e.g. 896 rainbow).

I try to look over my hand histories and i have learnt a little, but some of the time i just think it was inevitable and it was going in. Is the best way to work on my post flop game just post HHs and talk about then?

Clar

If i take away my play from the blinds i get a non-showdown line that breaks even.

Does this indicate i'm leaking monies from the blinds or should i actually be making money w/o showdown at every position and the blinds make it go back down to even?

Thanks,
Clar

Are you losing more from the blinds than you would be if u just folded them PF? I don't user HEM so i don't know if it has these stats, but is there a BB/hand stat that u can filter for each position? When defending do u tend to call rather than 3-bet? U may just be calling too much PF then giving up when u don't hit.