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  1. #1

    Default Bad plays or bad beats?

    These two happened within 2 minutes. I think I may have overplayed the kings in the first. In the second, the guy taunted me afterward, saying "Learn how to fold garbage."

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    UTG+1 ($4.40)
    MP1 ($2.65)
    MP2 ($3.15)
    CO ($13.05)
    Button ($10.50)
    Hero ($17.15)
    BB ($6.15)
    UTG ($14.35)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    UTG raises to $0.3, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.2, BB calls $1.10, UTG calls $0.90, MP2 folds.

    Flop: ($3.90) , , (3 players)
    Hero bets $3, BB folds, UTG calls $3.

    Turn: ($9.90) (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $4.4, Hero calls $4.40.

    River: ($18.70) (2 players)
    Hero bets $8.55 (All-In), UTG calls $5.75 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $30.20

    Results in white below:
    UTG has 9c Tc (flush, ten high).
    Hero has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
    Outcome: UTG wins $30.20. Hero wins $2.80.



    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($5.25)
    MP2 ($9.85)
    MP3 ($8)
    CO ($3.45)
    Button ($6.10)
    SB ($10.45)
    Hero ($14.25)
    UTG ($5.10)
    UTG+1 ($9.60)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 3.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks.

    Flop: ($0.55) T, 4, 2 (5 players)
    Hero bets $0.3, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.9, Button folds, Hero calls $0.60.

    Turn: ($2.35) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.2, Hero raises to $2.4, MP2 raises to $3.6, Hero raises to $13.1, MP2 calls $5.25 (All-In).

    River: ($20.05) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $20.05

    Results in white below:
    Hero has 5d 3h (straight, five high).
    MP2 has 2c 2h (four of a kind, twos).
    Outcome: MP2 wins $20.05. Hero wins $4.25.
  2. #2
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    Hand 1: I'll probably bet the turn and fold to a raise.

    Hand 2 is fine. You got all your money in with the best hand but he hit his 2 outer.
  3. #3
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    My two cents... w/ the caveat that I struggle with large overpairs...

    Hand 1:
    - I would hit the flop bet harder. $4 into 3.90 as you've got the FD on the board.
    - When he bets 1/2PSB after the 3rd club drops on the Turn, what do you put him on? I don't like the check/call after your aggression PF & on flop.
    - Then on the river, you're facing a possible made flush AND a scary straight card drops. And you only have KK. I'm guessing you pushed the River to represent the straight? Problem I have with that is I read villains Turn bet as value (rather than trying to keep someone off the flush draw... would expect a larger bet if he had a set) so a made flush is def in his range... which means he doesn't care if you made the straight.

    I'd lead out the turn and then C/F the river to a large bet.

    Hand 2:
    - You're semi-bluffing w/ your OESD into a 5-way pot OOP in the flop. You're at least 4.75:1 against, and once MP2 raises u, your odds are blown to hell. Fortunately, u hit one of your outs on the Turn.
    - I don't like min-raises, so prolly would have RR MPs turn bet to 4.80 and then pushed to his RR. But there's no way I'm not getting the money in on this one.
    - The river pairing is unfortunate but is what it is.

    Okay... now I'll let better players than me give u some info u can REALLY use!
  4. #4
    H1: b/f turn on this draw heavy board.

    H2: c/c flop, as played, you got the money in w/ the nuts. What else is there to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizu
    Hand 2 is fine. You got all your money in with the best hand but he hit his 2 outer.
    11-outer. Tens, fours, and aces for the full house, twos for quads.
  6. #6
    10 outs, unless it's a trick deck of 1eyed jacks count.

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