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 Originally Posted by jyms
What kind of time, and more importantly, effort do you think it would take to climb from micro to $50NL or $100NL and have a winning winrate ahead of rake. On Stars, not on Stars?
I can't put enough emphasis on this: The games are harder on PokerStars by a larger margin than they have ever been when compared to the rest of the industry.
On PokerStars, I don't know if 30 hours of play/study each week would be sufficient to make that jump inside of a year for someone of moderately above-average intelligence. Off PokerStars, I think 15 hours of play/study each week would be enough to do it inside of a year.
The following is why I say this. I know a player from FTR who I won't name since I'm not sure if he'd want me sharing this story about him. He played 10nl for most of the last half of 2013, and then he bounced between 10nl and 25nl on PokerStars for about six months straight in the beginning of 2014. He couldn't ever "stick" at 25nl and always had to move down. He moved over to Bovada and now beats 100nl for about $5/100 hands and is in the process of moving up to 200nl with no signs of problems so far.
You didn't ask about this, but I'll go on my rant about this anyway. I would not recommend that anyone try to start from the micros and go up through the stakes on PokerStars right now in no-limit hold'em cash games. The competition is too strong, and the rake has went up recently on a lot of games. Let me also say that I anticipate that this will change by the end of 2015 with the changes that Amaya is making. It's an unpopular opinion, but I think that their changes will result in a softer player pool with games that are easier to beat by the end of next year. I have a blog post about it here that anyone can reference to see why I believe this is the case.
My recommendation would be to get into non-hold'em games like seven card stud, badugi and five card draw. The edges are bigger, and the games haven't been exploited as much with software/training sites/professional players. In short, I think that you could become proficient at three or four games in the time that you would be able to beat 25nl cash games for 1 ptbb/100 on PokerStars if you were starting out.
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