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 Originally Posted by Parasurama
um, if we know he has a set of deuces why do we have to ship it in on the turn after we hit our straight? We can c/c and then ship any non-board pairing rivers and he'll still get it in happily.
So what, we check the turn if we hit? And you think he won't bet? If we hit the ten, the chips are going in, one way or another. It doesn't affect the implied odds one bit, because our implied odds are directly related to our stack size. It's still either a bad call or it isn't on the flop, regardless of how we play should we hit.
If the ten comes, his set is even more vulnerable than it was. He must know we have at least an ace, so even if we haven't made our straight, we now have a gutshot, from his point of view. He now has even more reason to protect his hand, he really doesn't want to see a queen or ace.
I think calling a gutshot then giving him a free card to outdraw us is even worse a play than simply caliing the gutshot at this price.
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