AQ UTG

Villain is 18-12 over 200 hands i have notes that he open shoved turn with an inside str8 draw and that he called to .76 pre with QJ oop.
Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

BB: $2.76
Hero (UTG): $4.07
UTG+1: $4.50
UTG+2: $8.86
MP1: $3.22
MP2: $3.88
CO: $2.72
BTN: $3.94
SB: $3.74

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is UTG with Q A
Hero raises to $0.20, 6 folds, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.60) 6 J 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.20) Q (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.48, SB calls $0.48, BB folds

River: ($2.16) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $2.86 all in, Hero??


His donk river shove here is weird I am thinking he is bluffing after I tank but he could have some set he slow played. this is a tough spot for me????

My bet sizings suck but yours are about a billion times worse.

.40 on flop
as played .90 on turn
River would be easy if you'd bet with any balls in the first place.

river is a fold, he has no bluffs here but after that line he can surely have 22,66,JJ, QJ, 67s

1/3 flop bet makes no sense.
turn bet should be 1/2 - 2/3 pot.
River??? I'm lost at this point. I probly fold but I'm a NIT.

Given your reads I might have thought you were playing against me, only I don't play on the Merge network. (vpipfr stats are about the same as mine. Shoving turn with a gutshot is sort of strange thing I like to do occasionally.)

So I can tell you that my range on the river would be mainly 66,JJ,22. Sometimes I will have defended with QJ if I think I can play postflop better than the PF raiser. On rare occasions I will have AJ and shove the river hoping to get top pair to fold, but most of the time I have AJ I would either have raised pre or folded depending on opponent.

Either way I don't have AJ often enough for you to call the river bet, so you have to fold there.

And as others have said, bet size on flop and turn is just bad.

I don't mind flop sizing at all.

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

I don't mind flop sizing at all.

Ugh, this is where moving up to ss confuses the shit out of me. As microdonks were taught fairly specific bet sizings and tend to adhere to them religiously. If someone underbets like this at the micros I'll usually raise with just about anything because they're almost always weak and folding. That certainly doesn't mean that most villains recognize this so maybe this sizing is really villain dependent, esp at the micros?

Originally Posted by supa

Ugh, this is where moving up to ss confuses the shit out of me. As microdonks were taught fairly specific bet sizings and tend to adhere to them religiously. If someone underbets like this at the micros I'll usually raise with just about anything because they're almost always weak and folding. That certainly doesn't mean that most villains recognize this so maybe this sizing is really villain dependent, esp at the micros?

Basically when villains range is really weak or you are going to be following up with a 2barrel a lot and there is no threatening cards betting smaller is a lot better. Betting small A) Gets villains to fold incorrectly cause they are ahead or have enough equity to continue. B) Gets villain to continue with a much weaker then if we bet 2/3 pot, in which case we have a VERY profitable 2 or 3barrel.

Spots where this becomes really good is v villains who know that you know his range can NOT be very strong on a board. example is like u raise and villain is never ccing Ax and flop comes A high.

Last actual point I'll talk about for now is the fact that if both villains are folding approximately the same percent to 1/3 pot as 2/3 pot you are LIGHTING money on fire when you bet 2/3.

smaller pre, 15c is good
flop anything from 18c to 40c is ok
turn is interesting, you are basically deciding before you make your turn play what you are planning to do with this hand

edit: read and try to understand everything that eyecandy says in his post above, if you're not sure about anything there then you should ask