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  1. #1

    Default Any reason to call this?

    Pot odds to call here? No read.

    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    10 players

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $20
    UTG+1: $120.79
    UTG+2: $74.75
    MP1: $65.50
    MP2: $87.61
    MP3: $123.50
    Hero: $101.50
    Button: $25.74
    SB: $112.75
    BB: $25

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with T T
    4 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero raises to $5, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

    Flop: J 9 Q ($25.5, 5 players)
    BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $20, 2 folds, MP2 raises all-in $82.61, MP3 folds, Hero
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    Hard to say when we don't know how much you have behind.
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    No. I don't think I'm c-betting that flop either with that many callers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    No. I don't think I'm c-betting that flop either with that many callers.
    agreed. with this many callers, i check this around. if there were 2 unders and no draws, i might make a c-bet, but not here
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    you have to fold this if you give him credit for more than one pair.
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    post stack sizes, for all we know its $1 back to you and the easiest call ever
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    The pot is now $127. Another $62 to call. If you win about 55% of the time, it's a good call. Unfortunatly, a raise like this signifies >Q2 at least 55% of the time.

    So, let's look at outs. Lets say he has 99 or 88. You have 10 outs. 10 outs = 41%. Since 41% is less than 55%, you can't rely on outs.

    Easy fold I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    post stack sizes, for all we know its $1 back to you and the easiest call ever
    ok, stack sizes have now been posted. Thanks for reminding me
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew
    The pot is now $127. Another $62 to call. If you win about 55% of the time, it's a good call. Unfortunatly, a raise like this signifies >Q2 at least 55% of the time.

    So, let's look at outs. Lets say he has 99 or 88. You have 10 outs. 10 outs = 41%. Since 41% is less than 55%, you can't rely on outs.

    Easy fold I believe.
    I should know this. My bet on the flop was probably bad as some people pointed out and I made the wrong desision and called his push. He showed QJ, turned another Q and won the hand. I needed someone to tell me why this was bad play and I should also remember not to play when I'm too tired So, thank you very much guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew
    The pot is now $127. Another $62 to call. If you win about 55% of the time, it's a good call.
    Is this correct? The pot is offering hero 2-1 odds, so he needs around 33% equity to breakeven, no?

    After playing around with pokerstove, i still think it's a fold though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew
    The pot is now $127. Another $62 to call. If you win about 55% of the time, it's a good call. Unfortunatly, a raise like this signifies >Q2 at least 55% of the time.

    So, let's look at outs. Lets say he has 99 or 88. You have 10 outs. 10 outs = 41%. Since 41% is less than 55%, you can't rely on outs.

    Easy fold I believe.
    Hm... a bit more thinking after Jimmy Mac posts. If he have 88 I am winning with my TT. And based on what Jimmy Mac says I am:

    31.82% to win against 99
    91.21% against 88
    37.88% against AA
    23.94% against KK
    23.34% against QQ or JJ
    38.28% against AQ or AJ
    53.23% against AT
    27.47% against KQ
    34.24% against QJ
    33.13% against J9s
    36% to draw or win against JT
    34.5% to draw or win against QTs

    He limped and called preflop, so AA, KK and QQ is not likely.
    88 seems like he would fold. With KT for a flopped straight he would probably flat call I guess. A set or two pair makes sense and maybe KQ. In any case I am behind here and need to improve my hand. If I need 33% to break even this is suddenly close to a call then?
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