Quote Originally Posted by Illfavor
I think his range includes a lot of broadway cards and medium pairs but not totally junk hands.
Like What? QJ, QT, KJ, KT, JT, 44, and maaaaybe TT? How we doin vs. that, do you think he's calling a river shove w/2nd pair, and what bet do you think maximizes our value here?

This is relatively simple math that if you actually take the time to do, imo, you will have a clear answer and you will have understood how to get it in the future, making you a much better player.
Well against that range we crush everything but QJ and 44 and I get the feeling that he would call down with a J or a weaker Q than me. He might be so passive as to c/c all 3 streets with a set or two pair.

I'm not really sure what you mean about math in this situation could you explain further. Thanks for all the replies so far.