Quote Originally Posted by fulksy View Post
even if this wasen't near end of rebuy period. like tyrm said you have terrible reverse implied odds, if you raise standard 3xBB + 1 per limper, you will proabably still get some callers now your playing a big pot, with a mediocre hand, if you raise less then your going to get even more callers. obviously ranges are wider and results are irrelevant but UTG had AQ, how are you playing this hand where your not losing a high % of your stack? sinse you vbet pre i assume you bet TP on flop?
Yeah of course I bet flop if I raise pre. AQ then either calls or raises. If he raises, easy for me. If he calls, I can be pretty sure he has an ace at least (I raised pre, he's got to credit my c-bet), and I'm folding to next bet unless I improve. I'm not going to lose a high % of my stack with TPNK unless I've seen villian go mental with worse on more than one occasion, or unless I was short stacked in the first place, in which case I'd just shove pre.

I can't see that I'm losing more than 10bb very often, it's only a cooler that's going to increase that.

In terms of timing, it is a factor. I don't think I'm raising A8s during the first hour after lots of limps. Usually, the blinds get to 100 after around 50 minutes I think, so I'm looking to move into second gear. That's when I might consider raising this on the button. Later on, it's a clear raise if folded round, and a clear fold to a raise. If people are limping like this when blinds are 250+ then this is a terrible field, I'd be folding and waiting for monsters.