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 Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics
actually hoopy posted basically that exact thing only better 2 posts before...not to be a dick to monsuierr but his name sounds french so....
i disagreed with hoopy's post because if we bet (especially this) size, then i don't think it would be as a pure bluff--as he points out later in the post, nothing better folds.
if we bet this flop, especially this sizing, it's either for value because we have a read that play VERY cally and very passively with any draw/A-high etc., or it's to keep the initiative so that we can bluff later streets. the latter only really applies if villain is gonna play balanced/aggressive/unpredictably on the turn and river and make it very very tough on us to get to showdown when we check it back on the flop.
my default/readless play here is to check back the flop and try to get to showdown, unless we improve. i do value bet this against a fair amount of opponents, though, and rarely bet in this spot as a bluff/to keep the initiative in order to bluff at later streets
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