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    Default AK, flopped TP, deep stacked

    POKERSTARS GAME #17170119240: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/05/03 - 10:31:03 (ET)
    Table 'Hedwig III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Trimmann ($3.48 in chips)
    Seat 3: ajopo ($4.24 in chips)
    Seat 4: Hero ($3.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: hermoso485 ($3.56 in chips)
    Seat 6: sbruun ($5.20 in chips)
    hermoso485: posts small blind $0.01
    sbruun: posts big blind $0.02
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [As Kh]
    Trimmann: raises $0.06 to $0.08
    ajopo: folds
    Hero: raises $0.16 to $0.24
    hermoso485: folds
    sbruun: folds
    Trimmann: calls $0.16
    *** FLOP *** [5h Ts Ac]
    Trimmann: checks
    Hero: bets $0.35
    Trimmann: raises $0.45 to $0.80
    Hero: calls $0.45
    *** TURN *** [5h Ts Ac] [3s]
    Trimmann: bets $0.50
    Hero: calls $0.50
    *** RIVER *** [5h Ts Ac 3s] [8s]
    Trimmann: bets $1.94 and is all-in
    Hero: ???

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    [ ] Deep stacked
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    Default Re: AK, flopped TP, deep stacked

    I had a similar situation.

    POKERSTARS GAME #17163707632: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/05/03 - 01:16:46 (ET)
    Table 'Marmulla IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: pkrplayer85 ($4.94 in chips)
    Seat 3: immoraliste ($6.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: silverly2 ($1.14 in chips)
    Seat 5: animal_chin9 ($4.14 in chips)
    Seat 6: scs01740 ($1.16 in chips)
    Seat 7: aytes04 ($2.10 in chips)
    Seat 8: Hunter Play? ($2.53 in chips)
    Seat 9: lifepulse ($3.67 in chips)
    immoraliste: posts small blind $0.01
    silverly2: posts big blind $0.02
    dotmatrix7: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to animal_chin9 [As Qc]
    animal_chin9: raises $0.08 to $0.10
    scs01740: folds
    aytes04: folds
    Hunter Play?: raises $0.10 to $0.20
    lifepulse: folds
    pkrplayer85: folds
    immoraliste: folds
    silverly2: folds
    animal_chin9: calls $0.10
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 9c 3c]
    animal_chin9: checks
    Hunter Play?: bets $0.42
    animal_chin9: calls $0.42
    *** TURN *** [Ac 9c 3c] [5s]
    animal_chin9: checks
    Hunter Play?: bets $1
    animal_chin9: raises $1 to $2
    Hunter Play?: calls $0.91 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [Ac 9c 3c 5s] [Kc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    animal_chin9: shows [As Qc] (a flush, Ace high)
    Hunter Play?: mucks hand
    animal_chin9 collected $4.84 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $5.09 | Rake $0.25
    Board [Ac 9c 3c 5s Kc]
    Seat 2: pkrplayer85 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: immoraliste (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: silverly2 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: animal_chin9 showed [As Qc] and won ($4.84) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 6: scs01740 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: aytes04 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Hunter Play? mucked [Qd Qh]
    Seat 9: lifepulse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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    Using the hand converter makes going through hands much easier.

    To OP, for me that's an insta-call

    To animal_chin, playing AQo in a 3bet pot out of position is not a whole lot of fun. At these stakes you don't see many 3bets and if there are any they are usually big hands like high pocket pairs JJ+, AK, AQ and maybe the odd time AJ. If you're planning on getting all the money in on this hand I would bet out on the flop and call a raise.

    Running some hands through pokerstove.
    AQo vs JJ+, AJ+ is 42% to 58%
    AQo vs JJ+, AQ+ is 33% to 67%

    But when that flop comes you're a 68% favorite. So I tend to lead out. There's enough players who will pay off with something like KK, QQ, JJ.
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    I'm joining the call camp. You're most likely up against a worse A. AT, A8 and TT are possible, but so are AQ, A7, JJ etc - all told there are more hands he would have played this way that you beat than there are hands that beat you. And your pot odds are something like $2 to win the $5 in the pot so that's a clear call.

    My only worry in this hand is the flop check-raise which is near-min. It causes me to slightly favour an AT, TT or 55 type hand - but I don't think that really outweighs the pot odds you are given, considering all the other possible hands.

    Now, a poster earlier indicated that this is not deep stacked. I think this is worth another comment or two. Technically it IS deep stacked, because effective stacks are 175bb. However, this hand doesn't PLAY deep stacked - it plays weakly like a micro-stakes game where people don't know the value of hands. In analysing the hand you wouldn't take deep stack play concepts into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erpel
    Now, a poster earlier indicated that this is not deep stacked. I think this is worth another comment or two. Technically it IS deep stacked, because effective stacks are 175bb.
    IMO deepstacked is >200bb, but thats being pedantic.
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    Tha'ts is anoying

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