Quote Originally Posted by kmind
Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
so hang on are we talking about shoving or calling a shove?

Either way it depends on reads. I call a reasonable amount but not without history.
as stated in the OP we are calling.
ORLY?

Quote Originally Posted by Robb
My point is to find out how often (say, over 5k hands) people find themselves able to shove with AK pre at donkstakes.