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  1. #1

    Default AJs @ 2NL

    Okay the background on the Villain I play in this hand (after 45 hands) is that he plays about 45% of his hands and has a PFR% of 25. His aggression factor (PT3) is 24 at this point. He c-bets pretty much every hand he's raised pre-flop and re-raises in most situations to shove people out of the pot.

    I am around 15 VPIP and a PFR% of 9 at this point. I've folded to Villain's re-raises multiple times because of a board texture that would hit his range and me having absolutely nothing.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from Flop Turn River

    BB ($2.50)
    UTG ($3.49)
    MP1 ($1.33)
    Villain (MP2) ($1.91)
    Hero (CO) ($1.39)
    Button ($2.21)
    SB ($2.56)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with ,
    2 folds, Villain bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, 3 folds

    Flop: ($0.19) , , (2 players)
    Villain bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.24, Villain raises to $0.76, Hero ?


    It seems as though villain's range is pretty wide, he is obviously looking to enter any hand with a reasonable chance of hitting anything and will raise pf with better hands, PP's, Broadways, Suited Connectors and sometimes Kx or Ax. I also noticed that he tended to raise pre-flop bigger with hands he was more confident in, Big PP's, AKo, and presumably AJs+ generally resulting with a bet between 12 and 16 cents.


    (As a side question, what format is everyone using to copy/paste from the hand converter to the forums?)
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    Here is a thought for you. EVEN if we include 38% range on flop of any pair, any suited and any broad way, you are at 50% equity.

    And even an agro monkey doesn't have such a wide range. So fold.

    408,870 games 0.003 secs 136,290,000 games/sec

    Board: 2d 3c 4c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 49.430% 46.29% 03.14% 189261 12845.00 { AsJs }
    Hand 1: 50.570% 47.43% 03.14% 193919 12845.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
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    3bet pre is an option

    would much prefer just floating this flop
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    Defo float flop, you can check back turns and get to sd with the best hand a lot since you wont be folding out many better hands by floating and betting turns. He'll also likely barrel cards that make your hand a lot.
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    I'd say you could reraise preflop for value and to isolate him, but only if you think that he'll just call with worse hands. If you think that he will 4-bet you most of the time when you 3-bet, given his aggressiveness, probably better just call his initial raise.

    !Luck, why fold on the flop with 50% equity when the pot odds are 19%??

    I'd say call the flop: you have decent equity with two overcards and a gutshot (10 outs against most of his range). His flop bet is also really small, giving you very good pot odds, making a call profitable. If you hit on the turn, you can value bet him. If you don't and he checks, you can float or take a free card, depending on how much you think he is likely to check-raise the turn.

    So on the flop, you basically turned your decent hand into a bluff, which allows this super-aggro villain to 3-bet you out of the hand. If you want to try to bluff him out of the hand by raising the flop, do it with hands that have less potential than yours in this case. Or raise for value with stronger hands.
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    One more thought is that his flop bet sizing is odd. Some villains bet so small only with their monster hands to induce calls/raises or feign weakness, some do it as a blocking bet when they want cheap extra cards, some do it as a micro c-bet with air, and some do it with all of the above. So it'd be good to know if you have seen him do that before and compare this with his usual c-bet sizing.

    So be aware that when you call this flop, if you hit, you may have been drawing dead or be outdrawn (set, two pairs, flush, (higher) straight).

    So I would still call, but be wary if I hit and try to see a cheap showdown.
    Last edited by daviddem; 10-11-2010 at 05:30 AM.
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    Thanks for the replies, I honestly didn't even think about floating as a possible option (since I hadn't understood the concept until you guys brought it up and it forced me to look it up) so I'm definitely glad I posted this hand up.

    !Luck, since Villain raised PF I assume his range narrows a bit to stronger hands. Like 99+, suited connectors, a large array of broadways, and Kx Ax. So I come out with

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    Board: 3c 4c 2d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 51.683% 47.40% 04.28% 125291 11323.00 { AsJs }
    Hand 1: 48.317% 44.03% 04.28% 116393 11323.00 { 99+, A2s+, K2s+, QTs+, J8s+, T7s+, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 63s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }

    It's still not great, but supposing this still resulted in just 50% equity, why isn't it worth a call of the small bet he placed to see the turn? I mean obviously I don't know that's why I'm asking, just trying to figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lombracremisi View Post
    He c-bets pretty much every hand he's raised pre-flop and re-raises in most situations to shove people out of the pot.
    This read right here is the most critical one. Knowing that he likes to re-raise, why would you raise his cbet with A-high?

    Call his bet and see what the turn brings. If he's really as aggressive as you say, then if you hit anything on the turn you will get paid off because he will do the betting for you. Hell, if he keeps betting small, I would keep on calling even if I only had A high. Super aggro monkeys like this will show down with unpaired crap all the time if they are the ones doing the betting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    3bet pre is an option

    would much prefer just floating this flop
    This and I'd prob just 3bet but it's probably close
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    i prefer a float there, peel one off he might be spazzy with small overpairs/ draws and valuetowing himself when u make ur hand on turn
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    Very interesting reading the responses here.

    He c-bets pretty much every hand he's raised pre-flop and re-raises in most situations to shove people out of the pot.
    That's the kind of thing that I do. Not as aggressively as this Villain seems to be but I can see myself doing it. Hard to say what I would in response to a float play as Villain. Probably check the Turn, in which case, what should Hero do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Very interesting reading the responses here.



    That's the kind of thing that I do. Not as aggressively as this Villain seems to be but I can see myself doing it. Hard to say what I would in response to a float play as Villain. Probably check the Turn, in which case, what should Hero do?
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