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  1. #1
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    Default AJ tp3k on tt river - shove?

    villain is 33-13 over 20. He's seen me check-raise some draw and then get it in on the river when i hit. Squeeze pre should probably be standard, but not always cos i miss some value and it's like 5:1 on the call. HJ caller is 14-10 unimaginative reg with 60% W$WSD so he's not going to be any trouble. Flop i check-raise for value vs his Ace-crap and his sticky 88-JJ types of hands. Turn more value, should this just be an overbet shove?

    River too thin? i mean, i'm pot committed, but am i better to let him check-back?

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($25)
    SB ($25.78)
    Hero (BB) ($27.31)
    UTG ($25.90)
    UTG+1 ($19.22)
    MP1 ($12.67)
    MP2 ($32.98)
    CO ($25.47)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
    2 folds, MP1 bets $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

    Flop: ($1.60) 3, A, 5 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.35, MP1 calls $2.10

    Turn: ($6.30) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $5, MP1 calls $5

    River: ($16.30) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $16.30,
  2. #2
    I think once you make that turn bet and create that spr, then you have to bet the river (vs this specific player of course). If he doesn't have a draw then he's probably not folding to the river bet imo, but he'll check back a bunch of shit that would call a bet.

    Not sure I like an overbet shove on the turn without more specific reads. I like the bet you made though.

    wp
  3. #3
    I'm not really sure he calls the river with enough worse... It's possible though I guess. Doesn't the fact he has seen you c/r a draw mean he could put you on hearts which would strengthen his calling range for the turn a great deal? I think turn is kind of interesting and I'm not really sure what the best play/bet size is.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    I'm not really sure he calls the river with enough worse... It's possible though I guess. Doesn't the fact he has seen you c/r a draw mean he could put you on hearts which would strengthen his calling range for the turn a great deal? I think turn is kind of interesting and I'm not really sure what the best play/bet size is.
    keep in mind villain has like $7 on the river
  5. #5
    oh, i should probably read OPs.
    yeah jamming the turn is fine but so is bet bet
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
  6. #6
    so we cr flop, bet almost pot on the turn, why do we bet river? we are behind and river is like blank considering his stack size, i want to cf river, even if he has QQ hes so scared he wont bet it if we check river

    edit: actually why bet turn so big
    Last edited by middleburn; 12-06-2010 at 05:31 AM.
  7. #7
    Villain's flop play looks like a fish on a draw. I'd be inclined to b/f smallish on the turn and river.

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