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    Default aces vs tag on interesting turn - 50nl

    villain is 13-11-4 canadian pro with low 50% fold to cbet, doesn't float much, pretty standard, up 35k at 25nl and 50nl the last few years, etc. He probably has me about 17-13 with low-ish c-bet and a bit of a station.
    Turn play? is this absolutely trivial?

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    MP1 ($51.40)
    MP2 ($51.50)
    MP3 ($113.80)
    CO ($39.40)
    Button ($50.75)
    SB ($56.85)
    BB ($55.40)
    Hero (UTG) ($51.50)
    UTG+1 ($58)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
    Hero bets $1.75, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.75, 4 folds

    Flop: ($4.25) 9, 8, J (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.50, MP3 calls $3.50

    Turn: ($11.25) 2 (2 players)
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    I'm going b/f because there are a lot of bluffs/semi-bluffs I would be barreling here plus checking seems like it just lets him own you. If you check, he can get you to fold on a lot of rivers by betting turn and river. He can check behind draws and hit or miss and fold river, he can check behind Jx that would have paid you off.

    On the other hand, taking villain's playing style into account, you could make the argument that the only hands in villain's range on the turn that you want to be betting against are TT/QQ and maybe JTs (not hearts obv). He doesn't really have much Jx in his pre-flop calling range. Since he's not floating you on the flop, a check/decide based on sizing with a plan to vbet good rivers if he checks behind may be more appropriate.

    Doesn't seem trivial at all to me.
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    b/f seems pretty standard to me. I wouldn't b/c here since villain can just jam any river because it's highly unlikely that we would call there with b/c with a hand strong enough to a call river jam on this board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post
    b/f

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    turn sizing?
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    Bet $8 on the turn, fold to a raise. If he just calls turn then I'm confused. Range is pretty tight tho.
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    Pretty much agree with dranger. My sizing will probably be 80% on flop and turn, probably 55%ish on river if we get that far.
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    I bet $10 on the turn and fold to a raise/shove. I think much smaller than $10 might embolden villain to bluff at such a wet board. If he's raising you after such a big turn bet, it makes your decision easier.
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