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super standard?
i call to keep in the fish and cos sb is going to want to win the pot postflop.
co is weak winning player, i don't know how he wins really - 28-11-4 station postflop, low postflop aggression, sometimes prone to tilt losing the plot. I've stacked him in the previous five minutes deepish cos flop sets ip get paid when he bet-bet-bet-called off his stack over 3 streets

sb seems like he could be the best player I've encountered at 50nl or 25nl. Or maybe that's just sample. Ukrainian. Aggro. Small sample, but it seems he likes to put chips in and put opponents in difficult spots both pre and postflop. He's smashed me for 1/2 of a buyin in ridiculous non-showdown spots across a few tables this session including a 4b pot my bu vs his blind where he min c-raised me then folded when i clicked it back on 772

$0.10/$0.25

Stacks:
UTG ($39.45) 158bb
daven (UTG+1) ($32.84) 131bb
MP1 ($10) 40bb
MP2 ($32.62) 130bb
CO ($18.62) 74bb
BTN ($21.50) 86bb
SB ($64.53) 258bb
BB ($11.46) 46bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) daven is UTG+1
1 fold, daven raises to $0.85, 2 folds, CO calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB raises to $3.25, 1 fold, daven calls $2.40,

To me villain seems like a player you may need to have a balanced range here. I'd probably just 4bet.

Fair enough to me. Although I might try a small 4 bet to re-open the preflop action.
But I would certainly only let him make one more bluff and then wrap it up on the flop, before he has the chance to catch up.

Originally Posted by chemist

But I would certainly only let him make one more bluff and then wrap it up on the flop, before he has the chance to catch up.

Oh dear, don't do this.

I'd 4bet here but in the future definitely flat occasionally and then flat down on pretty much any board/raise boards where you don't rep anything and he thinks he has redraw equity with 2 overs (like T73r)

I think that calling pre-flop is fine. I could see an argument for never 4-betting pre-flop in this spot to combine trying to keep CO in the hand and to play a lot of hands in position against the SB who seems like he wants to be Mr. Fancypants.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

I think that calling pre-flop is fine. I could see an argument for never 4-betting pre-flop in this spot to combine trying to keep CO in the hand and to play a lot of hands in position against the SB who seems like he wants to be Mr. Fancypants.

gold,
anyway, i got about as lucky as possible here cos CO lost the plot and SB coveted all the dead money

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($39.45) 158bb
daven (UTG+1) ($32.84) 131bb
MP1 ($10) 40bb
MP2 ($32.62) 130bb
CO ($18.62) 74bb
BTN ($21.50) 86bb
SB ($64.53) 258bb
BB ($11.46) 46bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) daven is UTG+1
1 fold, daven raises to $0.85, 2 folds, CO calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB raises to $3.25, 1 fold, daven calls $2.40, CO raises to $13.25, SB raises to $43.25, daven goes all-in $29.59, CO goes all-in $5.37

Flop: ($84.55, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($84.55, 3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($84.55, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $84.55
CO shows

SB shows two pair, Kings and Queens

daven shows two pair, Aces and Queens


daven wins $82.55 (net +$49.71)

SB collects $10.41 (net -$32.84)
CO lost $18.62

results indicate play was perfect.

Originally Posted by d0zer

results indicate play was perfect.

lol nice
i'm more cured of that type of thinking than i used to be though

Ah yes, the ol' cold call/4-bet.

The more likely I think SB is to play at me on the flop, the more likely I am to call pre- so as to let him. The CO being in the hand does affect matters somewhat, but I'd be more focused on trying to extract from the aggro SB than on him.