AA laydown on turn

No reads this is only the 4th or 5th hand after i sat down, it looked to me like a set, does everyone else lay this down too?

***** Hand History for Game 4450352698 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, June 05, 21:59:16 ET 2006
Table Table 96193 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: Patio555 ( $21.21 )
Seat 3: jmarrara ( $45.50 )
Seat 4: mthofsth ( $131.97 )
Seat 5: DaHawks04 ( $49.95 )
Seat 6: dtjbrown74 ( $57.01 )
Seat 7: max424 ( $42.11 )
Seat 8: misjudged111 ( $19.25 )
Seat 9: tcsboards ( $39.34 )
Seat 10: Lozy_D ( $46.37 )
Seat 1: AATrain01 ( $49.50 )
>You have options at Sherbrooke Table!.
DaHawks04 posts small blind [$0.25].
dtjbrown74 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ As Ac ]
max424 folds.
misjudged111 folds.
tcsboards folds.
Lozy_D folds.
>You have options at Table 98200 Table!.
AATrain01 raises [$2].
Patio555 folds.
jmarrara calls [$2].
mthofsth folds.
DaHawks04 calls [$1.75].
dtjbrown74 calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Jh, 4d ]
DaHawks04 checks.
dtjbrown74 bets [$1].
you always do this good mth?
AATrain01 raises [$6].
jmarrara raises [$11].
DaHawks04 folds.
dtjbrown74 folds.
AATrain01 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
AATrain01 checks.
jmarrara bets [$15.74].
>You have options at Abracadabra Table!.
AATrain01 folds.
jmarrara does not show cards.
jmarrara wins $45.19
mthofsth has left the table.

A set, QJ or KK I would guess. I think you have to fold here, probably on the flop tbh.

I think Id fold that flop after the third bet without a read. Some people get too attached to TPTK, but you can assume that your opponent does without any reads. If you are calling that third bet I think you lead to lead the turn because he is going to be betting nearly every time you check regardless of his hand.

My money's on QJ. He looks like he wants you out of this hand fast. I think a set would be confident enough to take you to the river, it's pretty clear you've already made your hand and like it.

I'd let him have it as long as I knew he trusted in TPTK too much.

I play it exactly the same way you did. Nothing different at all.

Originally Posted by saywhat2

I play it exactly the same way you did. Nothing different at all.

Why call the flop 3bet and then check/fold the turn?

Originally Posted by andy-akb

Originally Posted by saywhat2

I play it exactly the same way you did. Nothing different at all.

Why call the flop 3bet and then check/fold the turn?

reevaluate on the turn: i may be able to get a fairly cheap showdown, and if the ace hits, im probably getting all his chips

Yes, if an ace comes you are probably going to stack him, but he is going to be betting any card that comes so you really dont know where you stand any better than before.

i think if I am getting over half my stack in on the flop then I am getting all in on the turn .

I'd consider folding this on the flop.


Its not a clear fold on the turn if you put him on QJ. You have 8 outs to beat QJ. Additionally, theres the chance he has AQ/KK and your hand his good. Additionally you are getting like 3:1 on your turn call.

3:1 on the call. 4:1 to win + the chance YHIG. This is callable.

What's he trying to do with the min-3-bet? Isolate you? Build a pot? Find out where he's at?

I think a flop fold is ok once he 3-bets.