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    Default 5nl FR - JJ over pair on flop vs aggression

    Villain - 25/8/3/ 37 hands.
    File: HH20120617 Weringia II #8 - $0.02-$0.05 - USD No Limit Hold'em_2.txt
    PokerStars Zoom Hand #82099672073: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2012/06/18 0:33:08 WET [2012/06/17 19:33:08 ET]
    Table 'Weringia II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: And19841 ($13.59 in chips)
    Seat 2: mithymouse89 ($9.76 in chips)
    Seat 3: Im YoungGun ($6.12 in chips)
    Seat 4: gurula ($4.25 in chips)
    Seat 5: shizgared89 ($3.29 in chips)
    Seat 6: And83760 ($2.67 in chips)
    Seat 7: FaZzBoy ($7.73 in chips)
    Seat 8: gklous10 ($5.16 in chips)
    Seat 9: elchicopollo ($2.99 in chips)
    mithymouse89: posts small blind $0.02
    Im YoungGun: posts big blind $0.05
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to FaZzBoy [Js Jd]
    gurula: folds
    shizgared89: folds
    And83760: raises $0.05 to $0.10
    FaZzBoy: raises $0.20 to $0.30
    gklous10: folds
    elchicopollo: folds
    And19841: calls $0.30
    mithymouse89: folds
    Im YoungGun: folds
    And83760: calls $0.20
    *** FLOP *** [2c 6c 4s]
    And83760: checks
    FaZzBoy: checks
    And19841: bets $0.50
    And83760: folds
    FaZzBoy: raises $0.96 to $1.46
    And19841: raises $2.07 to $3.53
    FaZzBoy: raises $3.90 to $7.43 and is all-in
    And19841: calls $3.90
    *** TURN *** [2c 6c 4s] [Td]
    *** RIVER *** [2c 6c 4s Td] [8s]

    Hand History converted gives me [ img ] and [ URL ] which I cant use apparantly lol.

    My plan was to check raise since villain had raised a few pots in position when checked to him, on second thoughts the number of hands I had on him makes this read a bit insignificant. When he bet I thought maybe TP, draws, Ax hands that paired with the board or a positional bluff so I raised. But when he 3bet me it was crossing my mind that he had a set (22, 66, 44), perhaps overpair 77-TT (surely he would 4bet QQ+ Pre and I had JJ) or TPTK. Surely he's not bad enough to have 53o/53s there. Regardless I ended up calling. Is it a fold to his 3bet on the flop? Perhaps I should've bet first not plan a c/r and when he'd re-raise call and re-evaluate on the turn or fold. Or perhaps am I always getting the money in here against this type of player?
    Last edited by FaZzBoy; 06-18-2012 at 06:59 AM.
  2. #2
    I'm thinking b/f flop. It's hard to see villain doing this with TT due to pre flop action. Villain has a pocket pair always after cold calling pre, and if he's raising us on the flop, he has a set.

    Lead the flop when you 3bet a big pair pre and flop overpair. Lead the flop if you have AK too.
    Last edited by OngBonga; 06-18-2012 at 08:34 AM.
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    Default reersome continued

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm thinking b/f flop. It's hard to see villain doing this with TT due to pre flop action. Villain has a pocket pair always after cold calling pre, and if he's raising us on the flop, he has a set.

    Lead the flop when you 3bet a big pair pre and flop overpair. Lead the flop if you have AK too.
    I think thats on point advice thanks =]
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    Jesus use the hand converter.
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    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($13.59)
    SB ($9.76)
    BB ($6.12)
    UTG ($4.25)
    UTG+1 ($3.29)
    MP1 ($2.67)
    Hero (MP2) ($7.73)
    MP3 ($5.16)
    CO ($2.99)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J
    2 folds, MP1 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.97) 2, 6, 4 (3 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.46, Button raises to $3.53, Hero raises to $7.43 (All-In), Button calls $3.90

    Turn: ($15.83) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($15.83) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $15.83
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    i like betting flop more than i like check-raising flop

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