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    Default 5NL Flop bottom two...

    MP2 is 14/4 over 28
    CO I only had 6 hands with, so nothing there.

    I call PF b/c i'm getting 3.7:1 and trying to flop a strong hand.
    check-raise the flop after hitting bottom two pair. I really wanted to take it down on the flop, and I didn't pay enough attention to stacks b/c when CO goes all in I couldn't re raise. THe turn ...what a horrible card, now I think I should have check folded, ...sometimes I act too quick, i thought I could still get values out of over pairs from MP2 even if CO had me beat.

    Anyway, flame away lol



    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    SB ($5.02)
    Hero (BB) ($6.79)
    UTG ($9.59)
    MP1 ($12.10)
    MP2 ($5.60)
    CO ($1.78)
    Button ($3.03)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 9
    2 folds, MP2 bets $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.47) 9, 8, Q (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, MP2 calls $0.75, CO raises to $1.63 (All-In), Hero calls $0.58, MP2 calls $0.58

    Turn: ($5.36) 10 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    Hero bets $5.01 (All-In), MP2 calls $3.82 (All-In)

    River: ($13) A (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Total pot: $13 | Rake: $0.63
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    Ship flop. Not a big fan of calling pre oop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supa View Post
    Ship flop. Not a big fan of calling pre oop.
    he can't ship due to CO's under-raise.

    +1 to fold pre
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    he can't ship due to CO's under-raise.

    +1 to fold pre
    Aw fack. something seemed funny there.
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    fold pre
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    Fold pre, raise flop more. You give them 3:1 odds to call on a super-wet multiway flop. $1.65 does it.
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    never call oop when faced with decent pot odds and holding some kinda of mid-connector? I did it becuase i was already in for 5, otherwise I may call with those sorts of hands if there are 2 or more callers.

    FWIW i was ahead of both on the Flop but MP2 had flush draw and OESD, 6s7s i think, other guy had TPGK
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonofyobiz View Post
    never call oop when faced with decent pot odds and holding some kinda of mid-connector? I did it becuase i was already in for 5, otherwise I may call with those sorts of hands if there are 2 or more callers.
    fold junk pre is a pretty good general rule
    89o is junk, fold 74o here as well, maybe call 79s
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonofyobiz View Post
    I did it becuase i was already in for 5
    yikes.

    also c/f the turn.
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    Could someone break down why C/R >>>>> donking this flop for me?
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    I would, but I don't think it does. Think donking is better here for a couple of reasons.

    1. We don't get PFR to c bet air here and he probably calls a lead with more hands than he bets (JJ TT etc)

    2. I want the fish to put moneys in now with his 1 pair shit or draws instead of taking a free card that could kill our action or make someone the best hand.
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    Also a c/r looks pretty damn strong here, think you can get a lot of nitty guys to fold AQ type stuff, he never folds it to a lead. Leading's like way better.
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    i think it may be worth having a look into/adjusting your play from the blinds - completing in SB, defending vs raises from SB+BB, 3betting vs steals etc. there seems to be quite a good chance you will find some EV you can harvest there.
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    Yeah I think leading is better also. Usually when there's a fish in a multi-way where we have a hand there's a strong argument for leading flops -- especially wet ones
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    Fold preflop and raise way more on the flop.

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