5NL - Crushed twice

Originally Posted by Cobra_1878

Just a general thought about SC's in MP ( 6 Max ) ...are we happy to include hands like 87s/98s/T9s in our MP calling range with an UTG villain of 20/18 or are we best just folding them? Does it help if we think we might get another call from either blinds or button?

just reading through this thread again, and i dunno if you're not coming at this a bit sideways.

i think "is XXX in our calling range" is the wrong question...or the wrong way to be thinking, imho

if you have a raise in front of you, you want to be looking to see if this represents an opportunity to exploit the raiser.

Good weapons for exploiting tight opening ranges are your implied-odds hands - small PPs, SCs and some suited Aces, ideally in position and multi-way.

so what you need to be thinking in these spots should be "who's left to act, and what are their tendencies?"

(Atcherly, u wanna be thinking that in every spot, ldo, but work with me here...)

If you're OTB and the blinds are fishy, then bingo

If either of the blinds are squeeze-merchants, then not so much

If you're MP, the blinds are fishy, and CO and BTN are both tighter than a gnat's chuff, you're still in business as you effectively "buy the Button"

etcetera, etcetera

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

just reading through this thread again, and i dunno if you're not coming at this a bit sideways.

i think "is XXX in our calling range" is the wrong question...or the wrong way to be thinking, imho

if you have a raise in front of you, you want to be looking to see if this represents an opportunity to exploit the raiser.

Good weapons for exploiting tight opening ranges are your implied-odds hands - small PPs, SCs and some suited Aces, ideally in position and multi-way.

so what you need to be thinking in these spots should be "who's left to act, and what are their tendencies?"

(Atcherly, u wanna be thinking that in every spot, ldo, but work with me here...)

If you're OTB and the blinds are fishy, then bingo

If either of the blinds are squeeze-merchants, then not so much

If you're MP, the blinds are fishy, and CO and BTN are both tighter than a gnat's chuff, you're still in business as you effectively "buy the Button"

etcetera, etcetera

Hmm, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of it that way at all, I was just trying to keep it really basic and assign myself some ranges in each position. Obviously these ranges would change based on table dynamics but you get my point.

I do think about those things during hands, but just hadn't applied them to what I was doing here.