50 dollar bank roll where to start? And another question.

Ok I am looking to start playing poker online and looking to start with a 50 dollar bank roll. I want to play ring games, SnGs and some MTTs. Here is what I am thinking about doing.

Depositting it at Pokerstars(I play play money there) and playing in the 1/2cent NL ring games untill I have about $75 then move up to the 5/10cent ring. Also playing the 1+.1 nl 45 man SnGs untill I get about 75BR then moving up to the 5+.5. Also playing some of the micro limit 1+.1 MTTs(but are these worth it?)

Is this a good idea? Thanks(I have read the BR management thread)


Also my one friend says he will start playing with a $50 BR if I do. Only thing is we would probably play in a lot of the same games. We woudlnt cheat or anything but could we get in trouble. I can explain more if you dont understand but we wouldnt be cheating just playing in the same tourneys and ring games and stuff a lot.

Given that .01/.02 on PStars is a $5 buyin, I'd say a safe bankroll for it is $100. $50 on it isn't the worst thing in the world, but I would certainly grind that up to at least $150 before moving up to .05/.10. Notice I said "at least".

If you're just starting out, I'd also suggest sticking to one type of game 'til you get solid at it. Meaning, if you decide to go forward with the ring game, don't do SnGs for a while - they're conflicting play styles and will likely mess you up. That said, the $1/2/3+0 MTTs on Stars are fun, and can be quite profitable if you happen to get real deep in 'em...just don't expect to get anything.

Hey ProzacNation...

I also just recently just started playing poker online for real...So I did as everyone, deposited 50$ on party poker and had my 15 minutes of fame...Soon they were gone, deposited again, same happened, I ended up depositing 50$ 6-7 times...

I myself now only play on pokerstars and I really like it. As for the 1+10cent 45 man sng's they are horribly fishy, like fishing with dynamite... I would advice you to deposit another 50$, so you have 100$, then you could play the 5$+.5, 1 table sng's, I've been doing fairly well in these...I would recommend to have min 20+ buyins, the bankroll management guide for sng's also advice this, because you will get downswings...

As for you and your friend playing in the same games, as long as you are not in the same network, with the same ip address(they would probably look for this), then there shouldn't be any problems.

Stripclubjunkie

If you do choose to go for the sng's read davsimons guide I dont know how skilled you are, have you read any books/guides or just played with playmoney

Thing is 50 dollar is like a ton of money to me, I dont have another 50.

Dont worry where I am getting my 50 from is just something I had that I didnt use so am selling. So if I lose that(I dont plan to) I ownt be to upset

Originally Posted by ProZachNation

Thing is 50 dollar is like a ton of money to me, I dont have another 50.

Dont worry where I am getting my 50 from is just something I had that I didnt use so am selling. So if I lose that(I dont plan to) I ownt be to upset

You wont be up set if you loose, then it dont makes sense that its a ton of money to you, because if its a ton of you, then should be willing to put another 50$ to get a better start with a smaller risk of ruin...

I doubt you would be investigated for collusion if playing only low stakes. It wouldn't be worth a colluders effort in money terms to play these stakes.

Also, stars will look for suspicious play when investigating cheating, not just playing together.

Originally Posted by Irisheyes

I doubt you would be investigated for collusion if playing only low stakes. It wouldn't be worth a colluders effort in money terms to play these stakes.

*coughs*

But no I do this all the time with a few guys on FTR

Originally Posted by Irisheyes

I doubt you would be investigated for collusion if playing only low stakes. It wouldn't be worth a colluders effort in money terms to play these stakes.

Also, stars will look for suspicious play when investigating cheating, not just playing together.

They probably would investigate throughly, it is unethical not to.

I didn't mean to imply that they wouldn't bother investigating colluders just because they play low stakes. What I really ment to say was basically its unlikely that you will be investigated for playing a few SnGs with your friend unless they detect suspicious activity between you.

Ok, I just dont wana get in trouble for trying to have fun with a friend. He probably wont play as much as me and will play more with me then by himself.

You can put this $50 on Sportingbet and clear easy bonus. 500 raked hands only, after 100 hands you get $30, after 400 another $70. Play with quarter or half buyin (just for now) in order to cut off variance, fold everything except pocket pairs and AK, camp for sets and push it. Three days like this and you are $100 richer. Then you can buyin for full or 70% and "play poker" - until you are comfy and bankrolled to move up. That was my way, and I was starting with as much as $29.

BTW, consider Aokrongly's counterplay strategy, if applied correctly it greatly reduces swings with minimal reduction of profits.

Playing 0.01-0.02 can be safer, but clearing bonus on Stars (if any) will probably take 17 years

GL

Your plan for Stars is excellent.
It will also work at Paradise.
Mixing in an occasional small MTT or $5 SNG along the way is ok, as long as your winnings are 'covering' the experiment.
When you get up to $400, move over Pacific for their .05/.10 and SNG's with a signup $100 bonus.
When you are ready to move up to quarter tables, take $500 to Party Poker for their bonus.

Originally Posted by Vrax

You can put this $50 on Sportingbet and clear easy bonus. 500 raked hands only, after 100 hands you get $30, after 400 another $70. Play with quarter or half buyin (just for now) in order to cut off variance, fold everything except pocket pairs and AK, camp for sets and push it. Three days like this and you are $100 richer. Then you can buyin for full or 70% and "play poker" - until you are comfy and bankrolled to move up. That was my way, and I was starting with as much as $29.

BTW, consider Aokrongly's counterplay strategy, if applied correctly it greatly reduces swings with minimal reduction of profits.

Playing 0.01-0.02 can be safer, but clearing bonus on Stars (if any) will probably take 17 years

GL

Does it matter how much the rake is?

Also, just for others to know, it takes 2 weeks from the date of the initial deposit, before you can withdraw funds. I'm gonna give it a go.

I'v gone from 10$ to almost 400 on Stars, took a while but you can do it. remember 50$ is 2500BB's at .01/.02 limit. If you're any good at limit this (and the 1.20 5 table SnG's) are fantastic for building up and getting practice.

Originally Posted by Vrax

BTW, consider Aokrongly's counterplay strategy, if applied correctly it greatly reduces swings with minimal reduction of profits.

could someone point me to this thread please.

thanks

Originally Posted by kstarm

could someone point me to this thread please.

Sure thing. http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/search.php

Originally Posted by Quillspirit

Originally Posted by Vrax

You can put this $50 on Sportingbet and clear easy bonus. 500 raked hands only, after 100 hands you get $30, after 400 another $70. Play with quarter or half buyin (just for now) in order to cut off variance, fold everything except pocket pairs and AK, camp for sets and push it. Three days like this and you are $100 richer. Then you can buyin for full or 70% and "play poker" - until you are comfy and bankrolled to move up. That was my way, and I was starting with as much as $29.

BTW, consider Aokrongly's counterplay strategy, if applied correctly it greatly reduces swings with minimal reduction of profits.

Playing 0.01-0.02 can be safer, but clearing bonus on Stars (if any) will probably take 17 years

GL

Does it matter how much the rake is?

Also, just for others to know, it takes 2 weeks from the date of the initial deposit, before you can withdraw funds. I'm gonna give it a go.

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Originally Posted by kstarm

Originally Posted by Vrax

BTW, consider Aokrongly's counterplay strategy, if applied correctly it greatly reduces swings with minimal reduction of profits.

could someone point me to this thread please.

thanks

Here is the original post:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...222&highlight=


Here you can read my lousy attempts to perform this strategy
It's nothing spectacular, just tight passive poker with big pushing on later streets. Making sure, your hand is the winning hand is the key here. I screw it up many times, so take it with a grain of salt
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...061&highlight=

you may try Bodog, They offer $50 bonus upfront that you can play with for making a $50 deposit. They have a few low buyin tournys with tons of overlay. ( on guaranteed tournys) I find that lots of the players there are terrible.

50 bux, sheesh i wouldn't even know what to do

you could probably easily dominate 5.50 sngs

1$ sngs are EXTREMELY fishy. when im down in money, i 4 table it and i almost always win one. If your lucky enough to get AA KK QQ in the early stages, you surely double up, see triple up. In the later stages, they're usually less fishy(blinds scares them) but 80% of em are really bad.

Limit 0.01/0.02 is also very fishy but thats really boring poker(1 hour of play to win 1$ is not always fun). But the safest way to start out if you have very minimal BR is: Win 1.20 at pennie and then go give a shot to a SNG. You will end up winning one.

The 5+5 sng are from my experience a lot less fishy. Theres usually 1-2 solid player, 5-6 decent players and a few fishs. But thats a lot funner to play these than the 1$ ones cuz its actually poker. Its not rare that u get dealth AA, raise 4x BB just to see the whole table fold. They're fun but if ur objective is to make money its maybe not the easiest way(note that it varies, theres sometimes no fish and sometimes 5-6 fish).

If your good at heads up, i really like the heads up SNG. Theres around 30% fish(easy win), 20% good(hard win but u can break even there), 30% maniac(hmmm if ur not cold decked theyre easy...otherwise its frustrating) and the rest are decent players(u can beat them like 60-70%).

Those % are just from my experience(i play LOTS of them). They also gives u major FFP and u pay lot of rakes.

My advice would be aim toward what ur good what. Ur good at limit? quad table 10/20
Ur good at Ring? i would stick to 0.04 for a while, cuz 10 Nl has a lot of swings.
Ur good at HU? then play it but make sure u got a good 80-90(or more) bankroll.
Ur good at SNGs? just play the 1.20, or the turbo 1.75, people are real bad over there.


Basicelly its better to quad table 1.20 than single table a 5$ SNG. If your very confident in your skills go ahead for the 5$ but i would begin with 1$.

Hope it helps

Yeah my old Diablo 2 account sold for 41 on ebay so Ill prob deposit the 50 towards the end of the week unless I can some how make a miracle comeback with my Royal Vegas BR