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    Default 25NL - Some hands I found tough

    I'm still getting used to this full ring thing. Here's some hands that I found it hard to know what the right play was. Any feedback will be very much appreciated!

    hand #1: Villain is 8/2 supernit, flop AF is 2.5.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) -

    BB ($14.50)
    UTG ($32.80)
    UTG+1 ($25.60)
    MP1 ($4.75)
    MP2 ($12.15)
    CO ($14.65)
    Button ($19.55)
    Hero (SB) ($27.30)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Kc, Ks
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1

    Flop: ($2.75) 5d, 7d, 9h (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, UTG+1 raises to $24.35 (All-In), Hero.............

    Hand #2: UTG+1 is 22/9, bit of a loose cannon postflop. Nothing on SB.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) -

    UTG+1 ($25)
    MP1 ($24.15)
    MP2 ($25)
    CO ($24.25)
    Hero (Button) ($28.90)
    SB ($21.05)
    BB ($4.50)
    UTG ($35.55)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Qd, Qc
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.40, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($5) Ks, 10s, Qh (3 players)
    SB bets $1.25, UTG+1 raises to $23.50 (All-In), Hero...............

    Hand #3: Villain is new to table, how have I played this?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) -

    SB ($51.85)
    BB ($25)
    UTG ($1.65)
    MP ($5)
    Hero (Button) ($24.30)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with As, Ah
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

    Flop: ($2.10) Qs, 3s, 10h (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $11, BB raises to $24 (All-In), Hero calls $12.30 (All-In)

    Turn: ($48.70) 5d (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($48.70) 2h (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $48.70 | Rake: $2
  2. #2
    I play 6max - but:

    Hand 1) I call. This is some retard with Axs alot. and also PP lower than KK.

    Hand 2) I call - if he has A-J, meh nh.

    Hand 3) I call - Q-Q is very poss, but I don't fold As here.
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  3. #3
    all hands look standard
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    hand 1, i think this is an over pair less than KK alot of the time.
    hand 2, i call. if he had AJ we are like 30% to fill up.
    hand 3 im not sure about.
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    1. Call.

    2. Call and hope the SB comes along for the ride.

    3. I doubt that I am folding. You could be up against worse here.
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    #1 snapcall.

    #2 snapcall.

    #3 nh
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    Quote Originally Posted by XTR1000
    #1 snapcall.

    #2 snapcall.

    #3 nh
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    i fold hand 1: super nit isnt doing this with TT, JJ or probly not even QQ. pot is small i keep it that way and let the overpair go.

    agree with #2 and #3
    I post nonconstructive piss
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyDeez
    i fold hand 1: super nit isnt doing this with TT, JJ or probly not even QQ. pot is small i keep it that way and let the overpair go.
    I think he could do this with JJ. Shoving over like that is a pretty retarded move, and leads me to think that he's pretty bad. An 8/2 could easily limp JJ in EP. IMO his line looks a lot like a big draw (like AdKd/AdQd) that wants to get the money in now. This is what I got in pstove...

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    22,770 games 0.005 secs 4,554,000 games/sec

    Board: 5d 7d 9h
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 54.216% 53.46% 00.76% 12172 173.00 { KcKs }
    Hand 1: 45.784% 45.02% 00.76% 10252 173.00 { QQ-JJ, 99, 77, 55, AdKd, AdQd }
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  10. #10
    i would have to see how big of a sample the 8/2 is from and also what kind of stats or reads he could possibly have on our hero, but i agree he isnt a very good player.
    he is playing full stacked though and that counts for somthing @ 25nl.
    I really dont see any nitty players doing this with a hand we beat. your range for him is pretty generous, and were not much better than a coin flip.
    The hand just isnt worth 100bb to me on that particular flop vs that particular type of villain. (Although ive had horrible luck with K's and Aces all week so maybe im biased atm.)
    Ive never seen this line with a flush draw, typically bad players will call u down until the flush hits and then shove in my experience, and if he did this with AKd hes alot better than we give him credit for.

    i think its more like this. imho
    27,720 games 0.031 secs 894,193 games/sec

    Board: 7d 5d 9h
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 44.271% 41.81% 02.46% 11589 683.00 { KcKs }
    Hand 1: 55.729% 53.26% 02.46% 14765 683.00 { JJ+, 99, 77, 55 }
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  11. #11
    hand 1 looks like a fold against a FR nit
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyDeez
    Ive never seen this line with a flush draw, typically bad players will call u down until the flush hits and then shove in my experience, and if he did this with AKd hes alot better than we give him credit for.
    well this line doesn't really happen very often. cuz you haven't seen it doesn't mean you can completely remove AKs/AQs from his range. it's definitely in his preflop range (at least AKs definitely is), and if he has it then he's probably banking on 15 outs. also i think you need to discount AA if you are going to include it in his range as he is usually raising it preflop.
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  13. #13
    Hand 1 is a crying fold against such a supernit, as you called him

    The other two are snapcalls for me.
  14. #14
    meh hand 1s a fold against this villain, hands 2 and 3 are definite all ins.
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    hand 1 is snapfold
    I see 8/2 having only a set here because if he is that aggressive post-flop why is he so passive pre-flop?

    hand 2 is a snapcall
    hand 3 not sure what the reasoning about getting this in on the flop is because villains are not that aggressive bvb
    although I've seen AQ ship here enough
    not quite sure if flatting his raise would be better

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