25NL Hand Review vs agro player

Villain is a super agro player with 24/20/5.5. Always cbet and 3bets 7% with 53 AgF

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) -

Button ($46.42)
SB ($27.32)
BB ($27.31)
UTG ($27.48)
Hero (MP) ($25)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with As, 7s
1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

When he calls here I put him in low pocket pairs, low suited conectors, and some AXs and KXs:
something like this: 99-, TJ-, AXs, KXs


Flop: ($1.60) 9c, Kc, Ah (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $3.40, Hero calls $2.30

Standard cbet. When he raises, I thought that he would have 3bet with his good AX, and very probably 99. So I put him in a FD, K9, A9-, QJ, JT, maybe a FD with a pair, or a bluff. I was beat by 99, K9, A9 and A8.

I elected to just call and reevaluate on the turn.


Turn: ($8.40) 4d(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $23.16 (All-In), Hero calls $10.85 (All-In)

Blank turn and he leads which I expected. I don't like to fold because I still beat so much of his range and he is betting here always.
Call was probably the best option but I would've hate a club in the river so I chose to minraise because he has a FD so often and I thought that maybe he could shove with that. He does shove. Call. Omg. Post FTR.
I post later what he had.


River: ($50.10) 10h(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.10 | Rake: $2

I hate this hand because I ended putting my whole stack with suck a weak hand, but I don't see a way out.

How many hands do you have on him?

He has a 7% 3-bet which probably means that he's 3-betting some hands for value and some hands as bluffs. You didn't put hands like KQo, QJs, KJs, AJo in his flatting range. Do you think he is 3-betting these hands and if so why? If not then the only other option is that he's folding these hands.

Generally, when someone c/r you on the flop they're doing it for value most of the time in my experiences. You mentioned that this guy is an aggressive player so he could be c/r us as a bluff, but even if he's c/r this flop with a hand that we're ahead of most likely he still has very good equity against us (i.e. JcTc). So I really don't mind a fold on the flop at all. If you want to go with your read and call the flop then even if its wrong I don't think it would be a huge mistake.

When the turn blanks off and he comes out firing into us, its just time to fold. If he was making a play at us on the flop with air then the majority of the time he's just going to give up on the blank turn when we called a c/r on an AK9tt board and check to us. I really don't see us doing anything on the turn but folding.

You think he has a FD often here, how many combos of FD's does he have vs how many combos of value hands???

In this hand you stacked off with top pair and a 7 kicker against a player who is telling you he has a big hand. Surely that has to be a mistake against like 99.5% of players

Originally Posted by kfaess

In this hand you stacked off with top pair and a 7 kicker against a player who is telling you he has a big hand. Surely that has to be a mistake against like 99.5% of players

lul

srsly though, unless everyone is a nit and i could steal, or there was a huge whale in the blinds, i am probably going to fold this pre, but i guess raising it isnt that bad either pretty meh....

one thing you need to know, a lot of people will 3bet shit like A2s but flat AK or AA or w/e in btn vs blind steal situations where they think you are really wide and are going to be folding a high % of the time, im not saying thats necessarily the case with this player but it does happen and you need to be aware of it.

fold to flop raise

fold to turn bet

You think he has a FD often here, how many combos of FD's does he have vs how many combos of value hands???

I thought his value hands were AJ,AT,A9,K9,99. Also I thought that AJ and AT were not raising always here because its hard to be called by something worse and you increase the size of the pot OOP. But thats probably me, not necessarily him.
If he is always raising flop with FD, is it still a mistake to continue with the hand?

I didn't have more than 500 hands on him and maybe my read was mistaken.

I think that I felt that I was being pushed out of the hands too often for the session and I tilted a little bit. That happens to me a lot LOL.

When the turn blanks off and he comes out firing into us, its just time to fold. If he was making a play at us on the flop with air then the majority of the time he's just going to give up on the blank turn when we called a c/r on an AK9tt board and check to us. I really don't see us doing anything on the turn but folding.

I don't agree with you here, he was the type of ALWAYS bet bet. 53 AgF. Maybe if he has complete air he may give up but if he has any equity he is firing here I, was 85% sure.

srsly though, unless everyone is a nit and i could steal, or there was a huge whale in the blinds, i am probably going to fold this pre, but i guess raising it isnt that bad either pretty meh....

Maybe in higher stakes, but in 25nl I'm always sitting with at least 2 horrible players, A7s its an open to me. Maybe too loose in MP but in CO and BU.

He had A4s, TPWK with a FD. If the turn were not a 4, was he betting ? I thought so.

When playing this type of players isn't it more profitable to wait for a GOOD hand instead of trying to get tricky with a poor hand? Don't drop down to their level and play their game. We strive to always play a level above them, don't we? You have to know even the maniacs/fish/tards catch hands.

Preflop is fine.
Fold flop raise, fold turn bet, fold turn raise etc.

He is repping twopair+ 100% of the time. He never ever ever ever has spades here when he bets the turn like that and if he does then he's abso retarded.

Why did you raise turn?

Originally Posted by imnotinsane

Villain is a super agro player with 24/20/5.5. Always cbet and 3bets 7% with 53 AgF

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) -

Button ($46.42)
SB ($27.32)
BB ($27.31)
UTG ($27.48)
Hero (MP) ($25)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with As, 7s
1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

When he calls here I put him in low pocket pairs, low suited conectors, and some AXs and KXs:
something like this: 99-, TJ-, AXs, KXs


Flop: ($1.60) 9c, Kc, Ah (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $3.40, Hero calls $2.30

Standard cbet. When he raises, I thought that he would have 3bet with his good AX, and very probably 99. So I put him in a FD, K9, A9-, QJ, JT, maybe a FD with a pair, or a bluff. I was beat by 99, K9, A9 and A8.

I elected to just call and reevaluate on the turn.


Turn: ($8.40) 4d(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $23.16 (All-In), Hero calls $10.85 (All-In)

Blank turn and he leads which I expected. I don't like to fold because I still beat so much of his range and he is betting here always.
Call was probably the best option but I would've hate a club in the river so I chose to minraise because he has a FD so often and I thought that maybe he could shove with that. He does shove. Call. Omg. Post FTR.
I post later what he had.


River: ($50.10) 10h(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.10 | Rake: $2

I hate this hand because I ended putting my whole stack with suck a weak hand, but I don't see a way out.

analysis is fine here i think, i dont mind your play. if you intend on folding at any point then flatting turn and folding any river to a jam is "standard" though not necessarily good

a very likely outcome is that he is playing a bit differently than you assumed, and so you took your reads too far.

an example of this is that his range for flatting the BB might be very weak, but he might only c/r a flop of this texture 5% of the time with a very strong range. that is actually quite common

gl